Lego BB

[WhatBall]

That's highly impressive!

Do you use it, is it practical at all?

I would if it were mine.

Found it on a forum by chance looking for football field images.

[Dr. Von Richten]

Ah, I see. There is only one solution then: steal it!

[Jackolas]

As far as I'm concerned any figures/Lego/counters are fine. We are all here because we like playing bloodbowl. If someone doesn't want to sit down and paint figures, then it's incredibly harsh for people like heff to complaint about it.

Harragouk has done something unique to represent teams that he likes to use. I would rather play against them instead of a team that's just going to be in primer for ever.

[DixonCider]

Lego blood bowl seems a little odd. I wouldn't mind if it was for a few games while you are looking for a team or saving up to buy a team, but I would hope that the coach would not be planning on using the Lego team, or any proxies, long term/forever.

Side note, I have seen D&D figures with scraps of paper with numbers written on them being used as teams. Since then my love for alternative figures has been a little less enthused.

[Heff]

As far as I'm concerned any figures/Lego/counters are fine. We are all here because we like playing bloodbowl. If someone doesn't want to sit down and paint figures, then it's incredibly harsh for people like heff to complaint about it.

Harragouk has done something unique to represent teams that he likes to use. I would rather play against them instead of a team that's just going to be in primer for ever.

Ok I'm harsh.

[harroguk]

Lego blood bowl seems a little odd. I wouldn't mind if it was for a few games while you are looking for a team or saving up to buy a team, but I would hope that the coach would not be planning on using the Lego team, or any proxies, long term/forever.

The real question is "What is it about them that means you wouldn't like to play against them long term?" Of course assuming the the models are representational of the players (i.e. My Vamps or Necros photo'd in this thread)

Is it that they are Toys? We all play with Toys.
Is it that they look cheap? I can assure you that they are not.
Is it cause they aren't "painted"? I hate painting, I play for the game, not the modeling.

I am struggling to find a "real" reason short of "x person just doesnt like them." does that mean that if I don't like Shadowforge mini's I should ban them from tournaments?

[mattwhile]

It's alright if you're the only one, but what if someone turned up with identical pieces and you couldn't tell the difference between teams? Even with similar paintjobs on identical models you can normally tell the difference, maybe only because of style of basing or colour of boots etc. It also looks like a shortcut, when there are probably others playing who dislike the hobby side of BloodBowl but will either muddle through or get a mate to paint them.

It's weird that I've only seen you use your 'proper' Vamp team in the league, that you got someone to paint, rather than the Lego......

[harroguk]

It's alright if you're the only one, but what if someone turned up with identical pieces and you couldn't tell the difference between teams? Even with similar paintjobs on identical models you can normally tell the difference, maybe only because of style of basing or colour of boots etc.

It is easy to create subtleties with the lego as well. If my bases were more unique would that make them okay?

It also looks like a shortcut, when there are probably others playing who dislike the hobby side of BloodBowl but will either muddle through or get a mate to paint them.

Why should I do something I don't enjoy just to play a game that I do enjoy? I will hands down say taht my lego necro team looks better and more cohesive than the Orcs that I played with for 2 years. Because I don't like the modeling side of the hobby I shouldn't have a team that looks nice/good/cohesive or should pay someone to do the part that I don't like?

It's weird that I've only seen you use your 'proper' Vamp team in the league, that you got someone to paint, rather than the Lego......

I had my "Proper" vamp team before my lego team, initially I was using the lego to proxy for the missing vamps (As they are all unique from different companies) I got someone to paint it because my Orcs that I used/painted for 2 years never got finished (And probably wouldn't be allowed into a tournament as they may not count as "Painted" 3 colours is the minimum I recall?).

[spubbbba]

My question would be why are you bothering with lego figures at all, why not glue coloured blocks to some bases using the traditional BB colours?

Or better yet use chess pieces, tokens, bits of blu tack or fold a bit of paper in half and write “Vampire” or “Thrall” on it. You could even bring a laptop and play on cyanide, MMBlL or fumbbl to save having to roll and dice. The issue I have is how far will it go. If lego men, some of whom look like their positionals are fine then are my examples ok as well?

As I stated before the most important factor to me is the ease of differentiating the players apart. I should be able to look at a team and instantly know which figure is a blitzer and which is a thrower.

Oh and I would ban the shadowforge orcs, dwarfs and dark elves for being downright hideous models.

[harroguk]

If you go back and look at my necro team posted earlier in the thread I would defy you not to be easily identify every model in it. At a push you could say which are the ghouls (it's the ghosts from a "ghouls n ghosts" reference) but it looks like a necromantic team and every player looks like their position.

You will notice that I am still saying that models must look like the players they represent which removes the coloured blocks that you speak of. I understand that your opponents should be able to look at your team and instantly know who and what they are playing against.

[Corvidius]

I suppose it probably comes into the same category as why folk dislike playing against unpainted models.

We've got a guy in our league who uses Heroscape minis for his teams including a set of rappers, they don't look like BB players in any way shape or form BUT they are all named and easy to tell apart and the name kinda characterizes what skills he selects, Microphone Assassin for example took bashy skills, Mafia Don took Leader etc.

Now don't get me wrong, I love Blood Bowl models and I love the game itself so I'm happy enough enjoying my modeling/painting as well as enjoying anything that encourages more people to play Blood Bowl.

In a tournament though it is important to be able to tell folks apart and know who has what skills but bear in mind the earlier edition models that have non unique positionals (the plastic humans and orcs for example) are generally only told apart by numbers or some other subtle painting trick. I remember going to 3rd Edition Tournaments and the first thing I would do was write down what numbers had what skills and it wasn't a problem, just an extra part of the game.

[WhatBall]

Grown men arguing about which toys are the most acceptable to use for a game.

I love Lego, always have. I think the Lego teams, if done right, are distinctive and look better than a lot of teams I seem in the miniatures forum on this site. They are also easier to tell what they are than many. Coloured bases can be easily interchanged as skill rings and to define teams. Without pointing figures, the Lego minis are still better than a number of the 'professional' models I see being released and used for teams.

[DixonCider]

Lego blood bowl seems a little odd. I wouldn't mind if it was for a few games while you are looking for a team or saving up to buy a team, but I would hope that the coach would not be planning on using the Lego team, or any proxies, long term/forever.

The real question is "What is it about them that means you wouldn't like to play against them long term?" Of course assuming the the models are representational of the players (i.e. My Vamps or Necros photo'd in this thread)

Is it that they are Toys? We all play with Toys.
Is it that they look cheap? I can assure you that they are not.
Is it cause they aren't "painted"? I hate painting, I play for the game, not the modeling.

I am struggling to find a "real" reason short of "x person just doesnt like them." does that mean that if I don't like Shadowforge mini's I should ban them from tournaments?

size, weight, the fact it takes a little more commitment to paint a mini then just buy a few lego figures, and yes they do look cheap.

[harroguk]

Size - They are 28mm Heroic scale (32mm) so the same size as many of my "lead" minis
Weight - Base weights fix the problem that they may be too light. Many "lead" minis are horribly balanced and fall over all the time.
Commitment - I dont paint the "leads" that I do have becuase I hate painting so much so finding the right lego at an affordable price probably takes me as much "commitment" as it does for you to paint yours.
Looking Cheap - Are the Humans and Orcs that come in the boxed set banned? They look pretty cheap too.

[mattwhile]

Looking Cheap - Are the Humans and Orcs that come in the boxed set banned? They look pretty cheap too.

But they can be painted nicely to make them appear much better.