Flame Bowl II for Cancer Research 5th-6th December 2009

Purplegoo · Post by **Purplegoo** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:02 pm

I don't think such a skilled WE team would be as tough to beat as a more traditionally skilled one.

I'll pay this weekend, if / when I remember.

Nippy Longskar · Post by **Nippy Longskar** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:35 am

Grumbledook wrote:I disagree but there we go

still going to be +ST +AG wardancers on a team

In fact it looks to be exactly the same as last year.

Hi Grum, sorry you don't like this year's rulespack. I tried to make improvements based on people's feedback (increased cost of St and Ag, reduced cost mutations, tweaked points for winning etc) ...but I guess inevitably you can't please everyone. Nevertheless I hope the skills structure will encourage unusual configurations while still offering people the flexibilty to create a team they enjoy using.

Still hope you'll give some consideration to attending, as it would be great to have as many of last year's competitors back as possible, as well as new blood, obviously!

Thanks to all payers so far, much appreciated!

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:37 pm

PeteW wrote:Also, is this constructive criticism Grum, or are you just trolling? Are you even going to the tournament?!

I went last year and played two such teams. I was(am) considering going again but I was under the impression this was going to be changed.

Disappointed that you even asked that to be honest.

Jimjimjimany · Post by **Jimjimjimany** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:50 pm

I think 10 points is spot on for +Strength. I think wardancers are about the only players you’ll see it on at that cost. If I played against woodies in this skill set I’d much rather they had +ST +AG and 3 points on something else than frenzy, strip ball and 12 points on making a decent team.

That being said if I did take woodies (I’m not) I would take the +ST, but not the AG, but I can see arguments for the other way round and for taking neither or both, which is what makes the costing correct, it requires decision as opposed to being a no-brainer.

The rules set is largely irrelevant anyway, team paincake will smash you regardless.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:58 pm

Jimjimjimany wrote:That being said I did take woodies (I’m not)

huh?

Leipziger · Post by **Leipziger** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:00 pm

Joemanji wrote:
Jimjimjimany wrote:That being said if I did take woodies (I’m not)
huh?

Maybe that's what Jimany meant?

Jimjimjimany · Post by **Jimjimjimany** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:11 pm

alex to the rescue.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:18 pm

No I mean ... you aren't taking Woodies?

Leipziger · Post by **Leipziger** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:24 pm

Nope, Bretonnians

Jimjimjimany · Post by **Jimjimjimany** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:31 pm

alex to the rescue again.

No, I'm part way through painting my chaos dwarves, hoping to have them done soon and fancy having a bash with them.

Ironjaw · Post by **Ironjaw** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:35 pm

Jimjimjimany wrote:No, I'm part way through painting my chaos dwarves, hoping to have them done soon and fancy having a bash with them.

You can't bash for shit...

...can't wait to see your Sizzling leaping Minotaur you little ag Aerosmith

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:36 pm

"Fancy having a bash"? I thought we were powergaming to the max, not experimenting?

Jimjimjimany · Post by **Jimjimjimany** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:41 pm

I've used bash teams the last couple of tournaments I’ve been to and really enjoyed them.

Someone else can use woodies. It doesn’t take much experience to turn the key in the back of a wardancer and shout go.

mubo · Post by **mubo** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:55 pm

Jimjimjimany wrote:I've used bash teams the last couple of tournaments I’ve been to and really enjoyed them.

Someone else can use woodies. It doesn’t take much experience to turn the key in the back of a wardancer and shout go.

To win consistently with woodies though you need to be able to elf stall, and for that you need to know what you're doing.

I think the rulespack is pretty damn good, +ST and +AG are far from no-brainers. I'm tempted by a +AG GR, but it's not an straightforward choice. Good work.

SillySod · Post by **SillySod** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:26 pm

Great ruleset Nippy, obviously its never going to be perfect but I think it looks pretty interesting.

Joemanji wrote:"Fancy having a bash"? I thought we were powergaming to the max, not experimenting?

I wonder what Joe will be taking? I bet he suprises us by really pushing the boat out choosing an interesting race.