Humans - Theoretical LRB7 Discussion

irlandes · Post by **irlandes** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:15 pm

I think there are too much positionals....

I think that making blitzers into blitzer-catchers(catch, +10K), removing catchers and adding a 0-4 Blocker positional (maybe 5 3 3 8 stand firm GS for 80K) would do the job... (as I dont see ST2 humans, neither do AG2 humans...)

then you would have a hitter team with some kind of catcher... not Chaos but not the human team nowadays.

Ikterus · Post by **Ikterus** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:44 pm

irlandes wrote:I think there are too much positionals....

I think that making blitzers into blitzer-catchers(catch, +10K), removing catchers and adding a 0-4 Blocker positional (maybe 5 3 3 8 stand firm GS for 80K) would do the job... (as I dont see ST2 humans, neither do AG2 humans...)

then you would have a hitter team with some kind of catcher... not Chaos but not the human team nowadays.

Sounds a little like Brettonians in MBBL...

purdindas · Post by **purdindas** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:15 pm

WTF LRB7.0! We arn't even officailly on LRB6.0 yet.

Gropah · Post by **Gropah** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:59 pm

purdindas wrote:WTF LRB7.0! We arn't even officailly on LRB6.0 yet.

Hence the theoretical part...

Tripleskull · Post by **Tripleskull** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:12 am

Well I think its ambitious to aim at getting an official change on the human team, but if you have hopes in that direction Jarvis pretty much forces you to look towards lrb. 7...

Gropah · Post by **Gropah** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:27 am

Tripleskull wrote:Well I think its ambitious to aim at getting an official change on the human team, but if you have hopes in that direction Jarvis pretty much forces you to look towards lrb. 7...

I think Jervis actually pretty much forces us to look towards infinity +1 for a changed Human team...

But hey, it passes time and it's nice to dream

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:34 am

Tripleskull wrote:Well I think its ambitious to aim at getting an official change on the human team, but if you have hopes in that direction Jarvis pretty much forces you to look towards lrb. 7...

I know I've posted that my agenda for LRB7 (if it ever happens) is restructuring humans & amazons.

Wylder · Post by **Wylder** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:15 am

Gah. I like my human team. Dont break it.

Also, wrestle/tackle as a starting skill combo? Are you crazy?

mubo · Post by **mubo** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:30 am

ianwilliams wrote:I know I've posted that my agenda for LRB7 (if it ever happens) is restructuring humans & amazons.

Great, I think it's a problem when Amazons are one of the bashiest teams. Also the global dodge mean they are really at a disadvantage vs dwarfs/CDs.

Regarding humans, I don't think anything drastic needs to be changed, but maybe:

- Linemen MA5 and GS access. Maybe this could be balanced by giving blitzers GA access.
- S3 catchers
- Leader on throwers.

I haven't thought how these could be costed, but these are small tweaks without rewriting the roster dramatically.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:38 pm

mumbojumboist wrote:Regarding humans, I don't think anything drastic needs to be changed,

You don't think this:

Linemen MA5 and GS access

is drastic?

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:48 pm

Darkson wrote:
mumbojumboist wrote:Regarding humans, I don't think anything drastic needs to be changed,
You don't think this:
Linemen MA5 and GS access
is drastic?

Of course not, these humans have beards!

duttydave · Post by **duttydave** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:11 am

My own tuppence worth is that the Human roster is pretty much fine as it is.

Preserving 0-4 Blitzers is a must. If the roster was at all to be tweaked then Joemanji's suggestion of making those Blitzers 80k is the one I would most like to see.

All this 'Blocker, insert stats here, insert skills here' is fine in a House Ruled Team but please not in the LRB.

Jural · Post by **Jural** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:27 am

Personally, I like the idea of a STR 3 human blocker. It gives the team 1 of every type of player, but doesn't overpower it (based on LRB 5 results, that's a long way from happening.)

But the team should remain "basic" and should remain accessible to the beginner player, and probably should be playable with the basic rules (although with Goblins, Trolls, and Ogres, neither starting team fulfills this anymore.)

A 0-2 blocker with a 5 3 2 9 GS/AP does the trick, skilled or not, in my book.

mubo · Post by **mubo** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:13 am

Darkson wrote: You don't think this:
Linemen MA5 and GS access
is drastic?

Point taken. I meant in terms of red ink on the rulebook! No new positions, no sacking of old positions.

Instead if introducing a new 5 3 2 8/9 blocker, why not make it possible for linos to develop as good blockers?

They won't skill up fast, so that leaves very high TV humans with a few linos with block/guard, maybe MB. This would obviously need to be balanced with the other players.
AV8 on the LOS I doubt would survive long enough to get 4 skills.

I don't think it's such a crazy concept...

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:45 pm

Yikes. I hope the human team doesn't get an overhaul. I think it's pretty cool.
And I like that the amazon are deadly. It fits the fluff for sure - just not chauvenist stereotypes.

If everybody is hot for a human team with blockers, I'd rather see a new team.
I did a human kislev team once. It's niche is a super defensive team, but without the ability to just pound the offense into the ground.

KISLEV TEAM
0-16 60k Linemen 5338 Standfirm G
0-4 100k Blocker 5339 Standfirm Block Tackle GS
0-2 70k Kicker 6338 Kick HMP GA
0-2 70k Wing 6338 Catch Passblock GA
0-1 "Big" Guy: Trained bear (secret weapon, very stupid - ST4)

Cheers
Martin