Apoth a Virus?

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:17 pm

Can you use an apothecary to cure a player who has been afflicted with the Virus handicap? This came up recently in our league, and we weren't really sure how to respond. Anyone have an opinion?

Asmodan · Post by **Asmodan** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:25 pm

I think i remember the answer was no, because the handicap says he is too sick to show up, which is entirely different from being niggled out.

los_locos · Post by **los_locos** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:28 pm

I dont really know but I would say no!!! Handicaps aren't that good anyway, and when you eventually roll virus one of the better handicaps, your oppent shouldnt be allowed to use his apoth, what use has virus then!!!! It makes the handicap rolles even worse!!!!
That's just what I think???!!

grotemuis · Post by **grotemuis** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:36 pm

isn't an apot used during play? i.e. after kick off, just like re-rolls

Redfang · Post by **Redfang** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:42 pm

@ Grotemuis; you can also use your apothecary to allow one of your players who rolled a one for his Niggling Injury roll to play; this then counts as your one and only use of the apothecary in the match.

R

grotemuis · Post by **grotemuis** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:46 pm

for the first time in ages

what a f*&k up

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 3:08 pm

Obviously I'm here on my own but I tend to say that it's possible for an apo to heal a virused niggling player.

My argument is that virus means (in game mechanics) that you automatically fail all your niggling-rolls (?). Maybe it uses a different wording but the reason the player are missing are the niggling injury after all.

To say handicaps are hardly good is not an argument, if the coach wants to use his apo for this virus-player he hasn't got one for the match, making it the same as Mickey Finning his apo.

aristodeimos · Post by **aristodeimos** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 3:18 pm

narkotic wrote:Obviously I'm here on my own but I tend to say that it's possible for an apo to heal a virused niggling player.

My argument is that virus means (in game mechanics) that you automatically fail all your niggling-rolls (?). Maybe it uses a different wording but the reason the player are missing are the niggling injury after all.

You aren't alone...I agree with your assessment. In fact, Skummy is asking the question since I set the precedent in our league that it can be used.

It's still a big deal, since it means the team has no apothecary for the game. In addition, the player still has a niggle and the Niggle Phase of the pre-game is after the handicap phase. So you could even argue that the player has to roll as normal. We've had this occur in our league as well (and the player niggled out)!

Post by **Dave** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 10:13 pm

I agree too, you said it all IMHO

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 10:23 pm

You are such a "Yes-Man", Dave.

Dangerous Dave · Post by **Dangerous Dave** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 10:40 pm

all Dave's are yes men!

I also agree that an apoth can be used to cure 1 (and only 1) niggler from a Virus handicap.

Dave

gken1 · Post by **gken1** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:31 am

i'd say yeah...he can use apoth but still has to roll for niggler after. Dangerous for that coach since no apothe during the game tho.

Post by **Thadrin** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 9:34 am

Dangerous Dave wrote:all Dave's are yes men!

No, we're not. I very definately voted NO!

SBG · Post by **SBG** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 3:42 pm

I'd say no, fluff wise:

a) "In sports now. A virus struck amongst the visiting team while they were at the hotel/inn, so 4 members of the Rotten Scoundrels didn't leave their room today..."

b) "Star Gutter Runner Squeaky Jim of the Rotten Scoundrels wasn't schedule to play today due to a bum knee, but the medical staff gave him proper cares and he was added to the line-up seconds before the kick-off."

I think that a) is what happens when 6,3 is rolled on the Handicap Table. b) is what happens when an apoth is used to cure a Niggling roll. My humble opinion.

Fred

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 5:55 pm

I agree with Fred's reading of it, wheter it's right or wrong.