Warhammerfest Roundup of the Bloodbowl release 2016 or 2017?

[MaD975]

Friends!!!
Please....
we're all...
EBENEZER SCROOGE.........
...not look...see...

[mikeyc222]

Friends!!!
Please....
we're all...
EBENEZER SCROOGE.........
...not look...see...

ummmmm...... did someone's account get hacked? lol

[MaD975]

Friends!!!
Please....
we're all...
EBENEZER SCROOGE.........
...not look...see...

ummmmm...... did someone's account get hacked? lol

no mikeyc222

i spend a couple of hour red all the post...

our problem are simple...
we look at that as Ebenezer Scrooge...
it's metaphorical...

we're aged...that's the problem

a question mikeyc222...
did you remember when has been child you saw for the first time GW miniatures????....

...you'll should ask an help to your son or a nephew...

[mikeyc222]

Well, I'm not entirely sure what that means, honestly. My son is only 3, so he's a little young just yet for GW minis. He does like to finger paint while daddy paints miniatures, though.

[JT-Y]

He means we're behaving like proper miserable old basterds. Anyone grumbling should remember how exciting this stuff was when we were kids.

And he's right you now - though a bit unfair in this thread because it's been positive feedback here. I was 18 when 3rd ed released in 1994, but I remember being excited about it.
This new edition contains nowt I really need, but that's okay because the world is full of kids who are 18 and have never played BB. They're the real market.

I went to Warhammer Fest to see how the game was received, and people are excited about it. So should we be. The news is good and there's more to come, so yeah, we should be less Scrooge like.

[Regash]

...but I remember being excited about it.

I do remember that feeling, too. Not only for Blood Bowl but my 40K Marines as well.

But that was long ago and before GW screwed me over and over.
Raising prices to a level that hurt, dumping all other systems than the big two, which also really hurt.
Mortheim, which I was about to start playing, Nekromunda, Battlefleet Gothic... All gone!

Do I wholeheartedly trust them to not do the same? Or worse?
I think I'll stay on the Ebenezer side of this for a while longer.
Just to make sure GW doesn't screw me again... And again...

[DinoTitanedition]

Why would they want to mess about with balancing new rosters when there are 18 more teams to choose from after the initial 6?

I think they could do it, because there is no balance in this game anyway - I still don`t really understand, how this word is continously used regarding Blood Bowl. Therefore new rosters that are weak or strong would not hurt the game as itstelf. I personally would like to see Khorne and Brettonians added. From my point of view, they breathed some fresh ait into the game when it needed it the most.

But the roster is popular so why not reinvent them a bit, they could be your beloved Fishmen.

I see it the same way. BB hails from the Warhammer universe, where Slann have degenerated physically. But you could just make the next Chaos Team from 'em, with equivalent models. After all, it`s not far from Slann to Slaanesh

Could you guys make up your mind if or if not Pact. Underworld and Slann are official teams?!?

Oh that`s an easy one Regash: Who owns the game? Is the NAF part of the owners organisation and therefore "official"?



My impressions on the seen material on the net are somewhat positive, somewhat negative. I do like the bigger scales, since I enjoy painting the miniatures a lot. It gives a lot of opportunity to individualize them paintwise. What I do not like that much thou, is the pretty genereic look of the miniatures so far. And all these knifes....backgroundwise the armoury is "spikey" but this all looks a little bit overdone to me. Nuffle does not favour weapons and it will bring bad juju to the dice.

What I really, really, REALLY liked so far, was the render picture of the dwarf (aside from that club thing glove). The beard gives the miniature a nice dynamic movement, like on the last released bomber.

Pro-Elfs concept art also looks nice and dynamic, but keeping it to the classic style....in a modernised way. Mohawks...signature style

All plastic is a bg thumbs up from me. It is a game where miniatures are touched often, layed onto the field and so on. For a person like me, who spends months painting up his team it breaks my heart when paint chips off. Varnish tends to change the look of the colors too much.

Two sided field with a lot of token and 3d thingies. I`m kind of glad, that I did not back the iron golem kickstarter now, since the only thing I really wanted there was the scenrey. I guess I´ll be building a lot of sideline stuff up next...

Racespecific dugouts is something I suggested years a ago already, same as "star-teams" which I see resembled in the mentioned ForgeWorld conversion kits for famous teams. I smell a campaign book here.

And here comes the big bummer to me. I really did expect a slight update on the rules. At least something like "Does not work with" regarding Claw, Piling on and Mighy blow (just to mention the most prominent example).

I also feel that the aging rules should come back, to make an ongoing longtime league more attractive.

Other than that I am satisfied. Would`ve bought the game anyway, new rules/miniatures/or anything else anyway, simply due to the fact that I like football and fantasy.

[GalakStarscraper]

BB is an alternate universe (it did not follow the same path as Warhammer) . The Slann backstory is fully written to explain them in the Icepelt rulebook. There is no reason they cannot exist. The Slann were an official team in 1st and 2nd edition Blood Bowl.

Regash ... if you accept that the BBRC made the rules for BB the 3 NAF teams are official. The BBRC voted on them and all approved adding the teams to the rulebook including Jervis. They were in and then GW LEGAL had them removed. So depending on how you see official ... is where you stand on this. I personally don't let powermad idiot lawyers draw my lines in the sand.

[Shteve0]

BB is an alternate universe (it did not follow the same path as BB) .

[Regash]

Regash ... if you accept that the BBRC made the rules for BB the 3 NAF teams are official. The BBRC voted on them and all approved adding the teams to the rulebook including Jervis. They were in and then GW LEGAL had them removed. So depending on how you see official ... is where you stand on this. I personally don't let powermad idiot lawyers draw my lines in the sand.

Unfortunately, Galak, I don't see the BBRC as the rule giving part of GWs BB team.
After all, it's GW who gave the thumbs up or thumbs down before anythig was released.

So, I'm back to 21 official and now 5 inofficial teams.

@Shteve0:

[mikeyc222]

After all, it's GW who gave the thumbs up or thumbs down before anythig was released.

if i understand Galak correctly, GW DID give it the thumbs up. it was GW legal that had it removed. just saying.

[Regash]

GW DID give it the thumbs up. it was GW legal that had it removed. just saying.

Doesn't matter, it's just details. GW did not publish them.
And they're still talking about 21 teams for the upcoming re-release.

[sann0638]

So you will say that even if it makes no sense to anyone else?

[Milo]

Regash ... if you accept that the BBRC made the rules for BB the 3 NAF teams are official. The BBRC voted on them and all approved adding the teams to the rulebook including Jervis. They were in and then GW LEGAL had them removed. So depending on how you see official ... is where you stand on this. I personally don't let powermad idiot lawyers draw my lines in the sand.

Unfortunately, Galak, I don't see the BBRC as the rule giving part of GWs BB team.
After all, it's GW who gave the thumbs up or thumbs down before anythig was released.

So, I'm back to 21 official and now 5 inofficial teams.

Not trying to be rude here, but ultimately it doesn't matter what YOU see as the rule giving part of GW's BB team. These three team rosters (Chaos Pact, Underworld, Slann) were designed by the people responsible for writing the BB rules and intended for inclusion -- they were removed at least in part because GW had a policy of not including rules for teams they did not plan to release models for. For the moment, at least, the NAF has sanctioned tournaments involving these three new teams and you can and probably WILL see them if you go to participate in any NAF tournaments or events. The NAF has, in essence, accepted the authority of the BBRC approval on these teams on your behalf IF you participate in an NAF event.

Outside of NAF events, you can feel free to house rule anything you want. You can even throw out Elves and Dwarves if you want to go that route. I've seen crazier things (well, maybe not quite.) It's entirely your prerogative to accept whatever teams strike your fancy.

[GalakStarscraper]

After all, it's GW who gave the thumbs up or thumbs down before anythig was released.

if i understand Galak correctly, GW DID give it the thumbs up. it was GW legal that had it removed. just saying.

For the record you are correct. GW did approve ... I was told to put them in the rulebook by GW. But Regash is free to believe whatever he wants ... never tried to force my opinion on someone's else house rules.

The other thing I will point out is that Regash comment about GW not publishing is as I previously mentioned incorrect. GW directly approves what Cyanide is allowed to post and not ... GW approved Cyanide hosting the BB rulebook with 24 teams in it without requiring the 3 new ones be removed. So while in 2009 they demanded they be removed ... in 2015 they did not. So GW did approve the 3 new teams being published.

Again ... if you choose to think that is unimportant ... that is fine.

I only posted my original comment because JT-Y said the Slann didn't make sense when they have full BB background and were part of both 1st and 2nd edition Blood Bowl.