Blood Bowl back at Warhammer World

[Kumulo]

You must be new

I'm 35 and I bought my Dwarf team at 13 ... I don't think that "New" really qualify me
But I want to be optimist specially if there was some turn-over in core team

I want to trust in the power of the NAF !

[layers6036]

I have very little experience in any kind of table top gaming, apart from coming to the NAFC a couple of times and playing one of two BB games. To my presumably fairly neutral eyes this announcement is one of two things:

1. Antagonistic to NAF at best, a deliberate eff you to the existing BB community at worst
2. Pure incompetence from someone at WW who has no idea about SG and BB and what's going on with the relaunch.

Considering the new BB is supposed to be aligned with the Cyanide ruleset which is itself modified CRP, it seems bizarre to be going back to LRB5 so my suspicion is that it's more likely to be #2.

If GW had any sense they'd reschedule this tournament further away from NAFC and use whatever the new ruleset would be, but I'm not holding my breath.

[GalakStarscraper]

We have heard from someone that was able to talk to one of the people from the WW events team.

What he said was two things so far:

1) They knew about the NAF tournament and that was actually the weekend they wanted to have their event so out of respect they moved it from when they would rather have held the event to a later date. (you can argue if you want if it is later enough ... but they did move it in awareness of the NAF event).

2) Now this one is still vague. The events person said he was aware of differences in the rules between LRB 5.0 and CRP. But that was it. So this one is still a question mark that hopefully the NAF can dig into.

To summarize for me for this event based on the above:

1) SPP like stuff during the game being worth more than winning ... I'm fine with that ... I like weird rules for some tournaments can make things interesting.

2) GW only models .... I'm fine with this .... it has always been a rule with GW and I don't have issue. I'm not sure how they will be using the event to get new people to really come to the event if the models are need to be Ebay bought or converted ... but I don't have a problem with them creating this hurdle ... it would be expected to me.

3) So close to the NAF event. I'm sure the higher ups told them to have the event ... so they are having it. Knowing that they moved it back a few weeks out of respect for the NAF event ... I'm okay with when it is being held and think that is was more a sign of respect than disrespect.

4) Using the LRB 5.0 as the base. Nope ... nothing I've heard yet can give me a good reason why this is a good idea. This seems like it was just a poor move for PR. If they had not done this ... then folks like me would be supporting them on forums and FB instead of wondering what the heck is going on and questioning them. Anything you want to do ruleswise for the event can be done to CRP just as easily as LRB 5.0 so this one is just poor.

And then I come to the bottom line ... the event just seems so badly set up. Lack of GW models for sale means a barrier to entry to new players to play. So close to the NAF event means you'll lose some experienced players who cannot spend the money to travel to two event in the same location so close together. And then LRB 5.0 means you are going to get some experienced players who refuse to go because they think you are disrespecting the game. So it seems pre-built to only get 1/2 the players of the NAF event. I will be very curious to hear the attendance numbers of each event.

[sann0638]

Our take - not LRB5, and we're trying to work with them: http://www.thenaf.net/2016/01/bb-at-ww-again/

[axiom]

Good stuff. Keep up the good work Mike!

[straume]

Some good news, I guess.

Curious, though: I wasn`t aware that Slann, Pact and Underworld was mandatory to get NAF-sanctioning. Is this so?

[sann0638]

Good stuff. Keep up the good work Mike!

Thanks. Can you add the link in the OP, maybe?

[axiom]

Thanks. Can you add the link in the OP, maybe?

Done

[sann0638]

Curious, though: I wasn`t aware that Slann, Pact and Underworld was mandatory to get NAF-sanctioning. Is this so?

Yes: http://www.thenaf.net/tournaments/runni ... nctioning/

[Wifflebat]

Our take - not LRB5, and we're trying to work with them: http://www.thenaf.net/2016/01/bb-at-ww-again/

"There has been some interest in the ruleset being advertised as modified LRB5" What a very diplomatic way of stating "the Blood Bowl community is losing its collective shit..."

[harvestmouse]

Very pleasing to see NAF/GW mutual respect and communications.

[harvestmouse]

Considering the new BB is supposed to be aligned with the Cyanide ruleset which is itself modified CRP,

I wasn't aware of this. Are there any links to this information?

[Darkson]

Sent an email to the WW team yesterday, had a reply today (much quicker than I used to get replies, even when reffing for them ):

Hi,

Just been having a read through the rules for this event (at the moment unlikely I can make it, but that might change) and I have a question.

What is the reasoning behind using an out-dated rule set (LRB5) when that was officially superseded by the CRP (LRB6) in 2010, which was the last rules-set hosted by your website?

With the majority of players having used the CRP for the last 5 years going backto an older rules-set is going to cause unnecessary confusion.

Regards,

Hey -
I'm glad you're looking at possibly coming to the Blood Bowl event! All we have said right now is that we will be using a modified version of the rules, and that's all I can say right now! We will be releasing our own "Bugman's XXXXXX Handbook" specifically for this event, so you're going to have to hold on and see exactly what rules are in there.

Rest assured, we also listen to feedback, so don't worry - your concerns are not falling on deaf ears. But I can't really go into the reasons for choices we make like this one, I'm afraid.

Thanks for the email though- it is genuinely appreciated

Regards
Nick Bayton
Events Team

[Regash]

Maybe LRB7 tryouts for the boxed set?

[celticgriffon]

Well there goes everything...

That bargain 55£ price is obviously because you are getting an exclusive copy of "Bugman's XXXXXX Handbook"!!!

Michael