Cyanide... a new card system?

[Itchen Masack]

Having sensible NAF contact with Cyanide would surely be a thing of benefit to the Blood Bowl community? At the very least it couldn't hurt.

Sure there are many who dislike Cyanide, some seemingly to the point of obsession, but there are also many of us who enjoy it on a regular basis.

[Rewslaun]

If Cyanide really wants to change things up I wish they would handle as a separate way to play like they did with Blitz mode. Have two options for play (lrb6 or Cyanide custom). They could then easily track what method of play users prefer. I know they won't do it that way as it would be a lot more work. I just don't like them messing with the Blood Bowl rules.

[Itchen Masack]

Pretty sure that Cyanide have confirmed that all the new bits will be entirely optional anyway?

[neverworking]

I think most of it will be optional. This interview with a developer confirms that you will be able to add extras to your stadium which impacts the match, but that this feature will be entirely optional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kmy5UYgMU

[VoodooMike]

Having sensible NAF contact with Cyanide would surely be a thing of benefit to the Blood Bowl community? At the very least it couldn't hurt.

I don't see how its a benefit, frankly. The NAF has decided to go with the "If GW doesn't directly declare a change then it didn't happen" philosophy, so there's not much for Cyanide to gain from listening to anything they say since everything they say will be "no, don't do that". There's really no common ground to be had between purists and Cyanide and their desired community, so what's the point in there being a line of communication? Do you honestly think they'll just one day decide they were wrong and revert all their changes? The only rational possibility there is that the NAF changes ITS policy, and they don't seem interested in doing so. Thus, all is already as it should be.

[Fassbinder75]

Jervis doesn't come and speak about how great the community is at the tournaments I go to, so I've got little investment in the "he still loves me, sob" position that the NAF is keeping. Happy to be proven wrong though if there is some meaningful NAF-GW dialog.

Cyanide might be riding the horse backwards, but they're riding it - might as well suck it up and embrace your Bretonnian masters.

[Waldorf28]

You are right VM.

What will make things interesting is if Cyanide publish a GW and Jervis endorsed LRB7 with the game, which is wholly possible. The Khorne roster had ex-BBRC input but was still rejected by the NAF. Rules tweaks in BB2 will also benefit from that input, and will also most likely be rejected. Then the NAF will be in the same position as those poor old souls who still insist on playing LRB4. Bitter and anachronistic.

With the NAF's current intransigence, the game has ossified. There's a roadmap here for NAF approved innovation and improvement, but their stubbornness will most likely reject it and split the playerbase even more.

And yet as some have expressed above and elsewhere, change might be good if it arises from open minded dialogue. Sadly VM your assessment of the NAF's unwillingness to talk seems spot on.

However... I for one welcome our new LRB overlords. I guess it's just a matter of waiting to see which tablets come down from the mountain top when BB2 is released.

There will come a time when the NAF rues this missed opportunity.

[sann0638]

GM?

[Waldorf28]

GM?

GW. Will edit.

[lunchmoney]

Rules tweaks in BB2....

What rules tweaks?

[Waldorf28]

Rules tweaks in BB2....

What rules tweaks?

The publically announced ones that everyone is hoping will be optional. Brettonians. Possibly others we don't know about yet.

[lunchmoney]

Rules tweaks in BB2....

What rules tweaks?

The publically announced ones that everyone is hoping will be optional. Brettonians. Possibly others we don't know about yet.

right. I thought you might be talking about something that wasn't optional.

[Waldorf28]

right. I thought you might be talking about something that wasn't optional.

The key word was hoping.

A lot of people are citing interviews, many badly translated, and projecting their *hopes* that these tweaks will be optional onto their interpretation of what they hear.

[lunchmoney]

Still nothing concrete then. The Cyanide PR machine is in full swing

[Waldorf28]

Still nothing concrete then. The Cyanide PR machine is in full swing

No, still nothing concrete. I'm as keen for an unambiguous statement about a pure CRP mode as everyone else. I don't think that statement or that mode will come though.

If I'm proved wrong I'll be as happy as a pig in shit