More interceptions

[Bevan]

There was a comment here earlier that any rule that makes interceptions easier just discourages coaches from passing. So more SPPs from interceptions, making pass block easier or widening the catching zone for interceptions would all just decrease the number of passes.

I suggest that the only way to have more interceptions is to make pasing easier, so that players do it more often. Preferably by reducing the risks of long passes failing so that teams move the ball around more often.

[Artificial Penguin]

This whole thread is sort of working from the assumptions that more interceptions is a good thing. And I don't agree with that, personally. It seems really simple to me...if someone wants more INTs in their league, make the roll easier.

[Darkson]

But that's the problem. I originally thought that as well. But if you know only 1 player can intercept on a '6' you might risk it. But if they can do it on a '5+' or better (and I talking basic AG3 or worse here) you're less likely to throw over someone's head, making INT even rarer.

Maybe Bevan's on the right track by making passing easier. If the range mod were removed from pass fumbles more long passes might be attempted, allowing more chance for INT. Of course, that would ake long bombs more attractive, especially for elf teams, so probably not the way to go.

[Grumbledook]

if longer passes were easier you would move to somewhere where you could throw a longer pass without the chance of interception than a nearer pass with an interception chance

[Mestari]

In my experience, players with AG2 and below are the ones who get the most interceptions, because the opponent is less scared to throw over them. Maybe it's different in your league.

I know that phenomena. But your idea was that increasing the reward would make people take more pass block etc. These skills benefit the high AG teams more, giving them more interceptions.

If your line-elf is so good at intercepting, why didn't the other coaches figure out that they needed safe throw?

I don't know! I didn't wonder that aloud at the time. He always disappeared amongts the other line-elves, and then when the desperate moment of a pass came up, I suddenly noticed "oh, this guy has pass block, remember?" (I always tell in the beginning of the game what skills my players have) - move the AG5,Catch player under the passing line and pick up the ball - 75% of the time.

[Zombie]

But that's the problem. I originally thought that as well. But if you know only 1 player can intercept on a '6' you might risk it. But if they can do it on a '5+' or better (and I talking basic AG3 or worse here) you're less likely to throw over someone's head, making INT even rarer.

Maybe Bevan's on the right track by making passing easier. If the range mod were removed from pass fumbles more long passes might be attempted, allowing more chance for INT. Of course, that would ake long bombs more attractive, especially for elf teams, so probably not the way to go. :oops:

We already play that way (we find that it doesn't make sense for an AG5 player to never throw an inaccurate pass, ever). There's still very few interceptions.

[Zombie]

If your line-elf is so good at intercepting, why didn't the other coaches figure out that they needed safe throw?

I don't know! I didn't wonder that aloud at the time. He always disappeared amongts the other line-elves, and then when the desperate moment of a pass came up, I suddenly noticed "oh, this guy has pass block, remember?" (I always tell in the beginning of the game what skills my players have) - move the AG5,Catch player under the passing line and pick up the ball - 75% of the time.

If i know there is a player with AG5, pass block and catch on the field, you can be sure that i'll ask the other coach where he is BEFORE i throw the pass!

[Mestari]

If i know there is a player with AG5, pass block and catch on the field, you can be sure that i'll ask the other coach where he is BEFORE i throw the pass!

Not everyone remembers that when the apparently easy TD is glowing in their eyes, I look defeated and as if I had given up stopping it (it's very important to act properly) and when those innocent-looking linemen are sooo far away
Not everyone can avoid getting excited (which helps forgetting the PBlockers) in that situation, especially if it's uncommon to score against your opponent.

[neverdodge]

Perhaps changing pass block to "player can move half his Ma rounded up" could help (perhaps that s overpowered, dunno)

[Mestari]

Perhaps changing pass block to "player can move half his Ma rounded up" could help

You have to ask: who does it favour? The high MA teams of course. And what do the high-MA players usually have too? A high AG of course!

Be fair to all of the teams. Increase Pass Block to 4 squares for everyone with pass block and allow every player to do a 1-square pass block.

That is a good and equal solution to increase interceptions.

[neverdodge]

On the other hand, increasing interception will be a little unfair for agility team because they pass more often.. So that could be a counterpart, no ?

[dalooniehshaman]

How about this

You may only pass if the thrower is on your half of the board and the catcher is in the other half for the completion spp
the rest are considered laterials and or hand offs

the cheesyist thing to do is get the ball from a kickoff runa few squares and quick snap to another guy in the backfield then next turn have him throw it back and so forth

make passing, passing
give you oppoinnt a chance to intercept

(In game before last I moved my passer and receiver to opposite wide out posittions. My opponent sourrounded my passer with 4 guys and even attempted a blitz (push). I threw a long bomb (needed a 6) my opponent tried to interceptt (remember 4 guys around my passer) and failed. The catcher caught the ball and valloa a glorry touchdown.

No guts no glorry

those were earned SPP's !

[Smeborg]

Hi guys - there seems to be something upside-down about the underlying assumption behind this thread (or at least it's first post).

BB is a game of skill because all risks are taken knowingly. Changing an element of the game's mechanics in the hope of making something more (or less) frequent isn't necessarily going to have the desired effect. In this example, coaches would simply change their play to make interceptions no more likely than before. This would (probably) include making fewer passes.

And on a curious note, as someone has pointed out, the low AG players seem to make a disproportionately high number of interceptions. Ogres are quite good at it, in my experience.

Cheers

[Taffsadar]

Considering that I just came home from an American Fotball training is this topic pretty fitting. I trained with both the juniors and the seniors for a total of 2 hours and 30 minutes of playing. We had 2 interceptions (and on two occasion one of the defense players knocked the ball away).

Personally I think interceptions are good as they are considering how often you actually pass the ball (something I try to avoid as it's pretty risky).

[Shadow_Dragon]

I think interceptions are easy enough allready! But if you want it easier!
Maybe if the interceptor is within "Short Pass!" range of either the thrower or the catcher then they suffer a -1 to their roll rather than -2! BEcause these are the two places in the balls arc where it is easier to catch! Just an idea!