The Dwarven Team: Overpowered?

Rupert · Post by **Rupert** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:44 pm

Some time ago there was a poll here about the most powerfull race. It showed that among TBB experts 10 out of a total of 69 consider dwarfs to be the most powerfull race - among the better races but no more than that. Beneath are just the result - the thread is interesting reading but I dont know how to insert the link:

Humans 5% [ 4 ]
High Elves 11% [ 8 ]
Dark Elves 4% [ 3 ]
Wood Elves 14% [ 10 ]
Chaos 7% [ 5 ]
Dwarves 14% [ 10 ]
Undead 8% [ 6 ]
Skaven 4% [ 3 ]
Orcs 27% [ 19 ]
Norse 1% [ 1 ]

Total Votes : 69

ZanzerTem · Post by **ZanzerTem** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:55 pm

Whats the title of the thread? I could use search to find it

Blood

Rupert · Post by **Rupert** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:59 pm

[ Poll ] Which one is the most powerfull race?

it is on page 5 on this forum (general chat) started on nov. 3.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:03 pm

opinion polls aren't as conclusive as hard statistics

Rupert · Post by **Rupert** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:41 pm

..........they may very well be better - the statistics could lie if if there is some kind of bias, for instance the coaches playing dwarfs could be typically bad coaches

or the statistics could be other wise biased, while in the poll you have the qualitative aspect from the expert opinion.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:43 pm

The "expert" opinion is often the same coaches who play the game, so the so called bad coaches can sway an opinion poll as well.

Rupert · Post by **Rupert** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:50 pm

yep, but in a thread like this the point is getting the arguments and establish a concensus based on best argument/established knowledge - its a typical method in social science used often if "hard" statistics is impossible to trust because of lack information about the respondents.

Put another way: in a thread like this everybody know who the experts are and people with less knowledge are influenced by the experts.

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:54 pm

BullBear wrote:Narkotic, that was going to be my next avatar!!!!!!!!

I get Taranto

Sorry, I thought I would be the only Groo fan here. But I should have known better after seeing this huge chin of yours

You can take Taranto, I'll take Ahax

Have you ever thought of playing BB with Groo dice? (for blocking)

MistWraith · Post by **MistWraith** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:55 pm

While they are balanced aginst the whole field of teams (in theroy), some teams will have a harder time aginst them. I feel they are to skilled a team to start with, and have to cheap of re-rolls. This is not to say they are very broken, just powerfull.

But then, I have only won once aginst dwarfs so what do I know.?

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:56 pm

Maybe I should change my Avatar to Ruferto?

I'm not sure that people here know who Ein is.

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:58 pm

Marcus wrote:Hang on... a 7-0-3 Win record is overpowered?

Ian, we must be cheating mate

Well you may be - especially after Tuesday night's performance.

MistWraith · Post by **MistWraith** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 9:12 pm

I find it hard to belive that anyone(of the quality of intelect neccesary to enjoy a good game of blood bowl) would fail to know both Cowboy Bebop, and Groo!

I must be jaded and cynical.

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 11:13 pm

MistWraith wrote: I must be jaded and cynical.

"...as any fool can plainly can see."

"Yes, I do see it."

BullBear · Post by **BullBear** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 12:32 am

Have you ever thought of playing BB with Groo dice? (for blocking)

No, can't say that I have. I once toyed with the notion of painting Thrud up as Groo. I do need to find another copy of the game though. My dice and cards are wearing thin. Speaking of liscenses, did you pick up the PVC set? I also here tell From Mark Evanier that there is a strong chance of some Groo Action Figures from Dark Horse in the future! (Word!)

Don't know much about Cowboy Bebop, except that it's anime. I swore that stuff off in '93.

Skummy, If you can find a good Rufferto let me know. Particularly with weapons. I've been looking for a good pic from Rufferto Reviere (sp?). The story where he imagines himself a warrior with Groo's swords. In the meantime this Arcadio's doing just fine.

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 9:09 am

BullBear wrote:My dice and cards are wearing thin. Speaking of liscenses, did you pick up the PVC set?

Skummy, If you can find a good Rufferto let me know. Particularly with weapons. I've been looking for a good pic from Rufferto Reviere (sp?). The story where he imagines himself a warrior with Groo's swords. In the meantime this Arcadio's doing just fine.

That's why I rarely play that game. Has to last for the next 20 years

Have not bought the PVC set or any other merchandising product (Had not the chance yet to pick up some trading cards, but would have been just a fancy extra anyway)

If you're really want that picture, tell me the Groo issue in which it takes place and I can browse my Groo collection and make some scans for you.
What about the Rufferto where he becames human (looks silly)