The R'lyeh Summoners (Slann) - From go to woe (part 7)

tenwit · Post by **tenwit** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:04 am

Yours was the approach I started with, Galak. I got creamed on the CAS count (not unlike you

). I got worried that I'd end up with Blitzers inside cages ('cos of the Strip Ball), and then I'd lose them. Permanently. So I've decided to build cheaper cage breakers. One Strip Ball Catcher and at least one Strip Ball lineman. That allows me to concentrate on making use of the GAS skills on the Blitzers (best skill combo in the game!).

I'm going to postpone getting any more blitzers until after I get the krox. Linemen can't cut it without Guard, and Blitzers don't have the sort of price:duability ratio that I consider conducive to putting on the LoS.

bouf · Post by **bouf** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:38 am

GalakStarscraper wrote:Current record is 8 wins - 3 losses

Galak

Bah! only eight wins...

Mwahahahahaha!

(Evil laugh must start with 'M')

I play Halflings tomorrow and give away 760 in inducements.

Deeproot, Morg and a hot pot... I'm sure of it. It hurts already!

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:46 pm

I will say this ... even though I'm known as a Stunty coach.

The most fun I've ever had is playing the Slann team.

This is truely a unique and new roster for Blood Bowl and I wish I knew the right mix of words to sweet talk JJ into putting it into LRB 6.0 ... minis or not.

What bugs me ... he allowed us to add stars using WFB figures ... but he keeps nixing the Slann using Kroot figures ... which is sad to me because I think the Kroot can look very Slannish.

Galak

tenwit · Post by **tenwit** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:09 am

What lineups did you both (and any other Slann coaches out there) start with? I focussed on rerolls to start, and I think the lack of initial beefiness hurt. It's been a slow road to recovery inside my first tragic outing (a kill and an MNG to top of a 1-2 TD 0-3 CAS whomping).

My initial line-up was:
2 Blitzers 220k
2 Catchers 160k
7 Linemen 420k
4 Rerolls 200k

If I was to start again, I think I'd go

1 Kroxigor 140k
3 Catchers 240k
7 Linemen 420k
4 Rerolls 200k

Blitzers will skill up faster than the krox. And now I have to save for a krox and an apo at the same time! The 60k I had to spend on a journeyman after game 2 hurt quite a bit..

Craigtw · Post by **Craigtw** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:10 am

Just ordered my frog warriors! Thanks for putting me back onto Eureka. Looking forward to trying out this team.

If all goes well the Slann will be a playable team for Q'ermitt V in 2009!

bouf · Post by **bouf** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:11 am

I hope to get mine ordered before the weekend (Finally!)

I started with
3 x Blitzers
2 x Catchers
6 x Linemen
1 x Apo
2 x RR

If I started again, I'd downgrade a Blitzer to lineman and take another RR.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:12 am

tenwit wrote: My initial line-up was:
2 Blitzers 220k
2 Catchers 160k
7 Linemen 420k
4 Rerolls 200k

My preferred roster is this but trade in re-roll to start with an Apothecary.

Also ... I personally don't believe in having a Kroxigor for my team.

Galak

tenwit · Post by **tenwit** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:16 am

GalakStarscraper wrote:Also ... I personally don't believe in having a Kroxigor for my team.

Yea but you've got 2x -AV and 2x MNG

Oh and I ordered 6 frog warriors yesterday. Eureka must be rubbing their grubby little hands* in glee.
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* Assuming that their hands are small and grubby. And that they even have hands.

bouf · Post by **bouf** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:17 am

tenwit wrote:
GalakStarscraper wrote:Also ... I personally don't believe in having a Kroxigor for my team.
Yea but you've got 2x -AV and 2x MNG

Thats Gold!

bouf wrote: Mwahahahahaha!
(Evil laugh must start with 'M')

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:31 pm

tenwit wrote:
GalakStarscraper wrote:Also ... I personally don't believe in having a Kroxigor for my team.
Yea but you've got 2x -AV and 2x MNG

And a 8 - 3 record and I don't consider -1 AV an injury ... I don't even retire Halflings with -1 AV.

Tom

bouf · Post by **bouf** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:15 pm

Speaking of halflings, I won last night 5-2 (7-1 Cas)

He got the Hotpot, Zara, babes, a 100K card and a wizard he forgot to use.

I would have won 7-2 or 7-3 if I had pass... And if his treeman didn't intercept... (I don't feel so bad about that one, There have been plenty of times I can remember that I've got my ball stuck in a tree...)

Got another Wrestle Lineman, Pass Block on my Blodge Catcher, and Dodge on my +AG catcher.

Last Game

tenwit · Post by **tenwit** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:19 am

Umm.. well done! (I wish there were stunties in my league.. sigh)

Looks like it's time for that last catcher. 2 more SPPs and you'll have all 3 to 3 skill-ups.

bouf · Post by **bouf** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:26 am

I missed so many passes last game it wasn't funny!

1's a plenty! If he doesn't roll doubles for Pass or Hail mary, I don't know what I'll give him...
Pass block seems prudent, (really shut down that passing game)
Kick off return was on my list as a 4th skill, maybe move it to third???
Pro could end my Passing woes a little... (maybe not)
Wrestle/Block is a little boring...

Not sure at all...

I'm also running at 4 RRs... I'm tempted to get another catcher and drop the RRs to three.

tenwit · Post by **tenwit** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:39 am

Other skills I have earmarked for catchers are:
Catch; Side Step; Sprint; Sure Feet; Jump Up.

With Sure Hands and Dodge already, I think Kick-Off Return, Pass Block, Sprint and Sure Feet are the best contenders, depending on where you want to take him. IMO Pass Block works best when there's 3 or more on the field; Kick-Off Return works well with Sure Hands (in which case, Catch would be the next skill); and the speed skills complement both Sure Hands and Dodge.

tenwit · Post by **tenwit** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:48 am

BTW I'm of the opinion that dedicated passing duties belong to a lineman. Sure the AG4 helps (and should be used until a lineman gets Pass), but catchers have that extra point of MA that throwers don't need: give them skills that take advantage of it.

Given that linemen need doubles to get any of the A skills, why not just put all the really good A skills on catchers, and give the P skills to linemen? AG3 + Pass is better than AG4 without, and all the other useful part-time-passer skills are G (Sure Hands, Block, Fend, Kick-Off Return).