Parting with my dark elf team

Quermitt · Post by **Quermitt** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:07 pm

Hi there,

Since my dark elfs seem to be collecting dust rather than playing games of Blood Bowl my team can leave my collection.

It is not pro-painted but you do get a very nice tabletop standard as you can see in the pictures. More pictures are available on request (hopefully with a flash as my flash gave one very big FLASH! with the first picture and after that refused duty).

The team consists of four blitzers (one is the old Tuern Redvenom model), three witch elfs (we had a witch elf star player in our home league), two throwers that can be used as runners, a chainsaw wielding lineman which would make a nice variation on the assassin who is always wielding a dagger and eight linemen.
Also included is a head coach model (the sorceress) and an apothecary/reroll model (the witch elf bathing in the cauldron of blood).

If you are interested in the team please PM me with your offer. For Belgian and Dutch coaches, I travel a lot inside of the Benelux for my work so P&P could be avoided perhaps if I pass by somewhere in the near future.

Cheers!
Seb

lauth81 · Post by **lauth81** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:49 pm

that cauldron is a nice idea!

Quermitt · Post by **Quermitt** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:58 pm

Thanks!

I made it after reading the fluff stories in the Warhammer armies book of the Dark elfs. The witch elfs have this ritual once every year when they bathe in the blood of young humans/elves/whatevers to regain their beauty and youth for the upcoming year.

I like the mini as well, even that much that I doubted to include it in the team package ...

Cheers!

Quermitt · Post by **Quermitt** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:53 am

After a couple of messages including some with a rather "strange" price people want to pay for the mini's (I mean, they are definately better painted than mini's straight from the box!!!), I decided to put up the price I had in mind for this bunch.

Anybody who has 120 euro to spare for the team has it. That is about the same price for painting them as for buying the models themselves ...

Cheers!
Seb

PeteW · Post by **PeteW** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:10 pm

Quermitt wrote:After a couple of messages including some with a rather "strange" price people want to pay for the mini's (I mean, they are definately better painted than mini's straight from the box!!!), I decided to put up the price I had in mind for this bunch.

Anybody who has 120 euro to spare for the team has it. That is about the same price for painting them as for buying the models themselves ...

Cheers!
Seb

5 years later.... but do you still have them?

Odium Khan · Post by **Odium Khan** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:55 pm

120 Euro? I would assume he still has them.

Yes, yes, that was an unnecessary comment, I know. Sorry Quermitt. But 120 euros must be a miscalculation?

Tante Kaethe · Post by **Tante Kaethe** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:06 pm

Do you really think that 120 Euro must be a miscalculation

? Quermitt stated that 60 Euros are the price of the unpainted minis (with 19 minis I would have thought it would be even more) so that makes around 3 Euros for removing the flash, basing and painting - that doesn't sound "over the top" to me

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Cheers

Tante Käthe

P.S. No, I'm not in any way a friend or relative of Quermitt

, just wondering what's a reasonable price for a nice tabletop standard paintjob

Meradanis · Post by **Meradanis** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:25 pm

I have to agree with Tante Kaethe.

On ebay UK, I see "pro painted" teams with 16 players going for 130 GBP on a regular basis, that's around 180 euro right now. This team consists of 19 minis, and from what I've seen on the pictures, they're slightly above table top standard.

I wouldn't sell them for less than 120 euros. And no, I'm no friend or relative of Quermitt either.

fen · Post by **fen** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:03 pm

Got to agree with Tante as well. Considering the time involved it's a reasonable price to ask.

Pro painters get ripped off by their customers all the time because no-one wants to pay a decent rate anyway.

But I shan't get into that rant

Not here.

Digger Goreman · Post by **Digger Goreman** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:41 pm

As my economics teacher said, so many years ago, "An item is worth what you pay for it."

I respect, and expect, a person to get what they feel an item is worth as well as a person to spend only what they want... neither one being unreasonable....

hoomin_erra · Post by **hoomin_erra** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:27 pm

fen wrote:Pro painters get ripped off by their customers all the time

How would you know??

Quermitt · Post by **Quermitt** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:43 pm

Thanks for those amongst you that appreciate a nice table top standard ...

Most of my earlier work (including these dark elfs) were of a very nice detailed standard and I can assure you that a lot of work and effort has gone into them. I wouldn't want to give an estimate of the hourly wage for painting these if they go for € 120, but I would probably end up on a negative number if I take the basing, paints, brushes, etc. into account as well.

I have just sold a chaos dwarf team this weekend for €150 which included two bulls, one mino, one deathroller (???), seven chaos dwarfs (we once had a starplayer CD, hence the 7th one), seven hobgobs, a coach, an apo and some more generic stuff. So those are more than 20 mini's including some big guys and the team went in about five seconds so my guess is that the price I 'charge' for teams that eventualy get sold aren't too high.

I have already PM'ed PeteW that the dark elf team is still available for those interested, but I am now obliged to give PeteW the first choice of course.

Thanks all for your opinions and I do think that Digger Goreman is right. An object is worth what a buyer wants to give for it. For example I thought the World Cup pitches would be sold out immediately at the WC itself and this weekend I got to buy one from Lycos as he still had several left, probably because the WC already dug deep into the Blood Bowler's money bag, but also because many players just thought it was overprized. Today I am happy I got the chance of paying for it ... (if you know what I mean).

Odium Khan · Post by **Odium Khan** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:07 pm

I have just totally overestimated the rate of the Euro and underestimated the price of pewter these days I guess. Still feels strange to me though, I would like to believe you could get 3-4 unpainted teams for that sum. Maybe not anymore...

Quermitt · Post by **Quermitt** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:25 am

Odium Khan, we on the main land usually calculate from euros to pounds taking 1,5 euro per 1 pound. So a mini that costs 2,50 pound would cost about 3,75 euro.

Cheers!

Quermitt · Post by **Quermitt** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:10 pm

Still have these guys in my possession (lost them a bit out of view during my recent move) but any decent offer made by PM will be taken as I still want to steer away from eBay ...

The price I had in mind in the first place went down, so don't be scared of any mentioning of euro's in the above posts!

Cheers,
Seb