Announcing the NAF World Cup 19, 20, and 21 of October, 2007

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:39 pm

DidnÂ´t germany come second both years they didnÂ´t have qualifiersÂ¿

lowsman2 · Post by **lowsman2** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:26 am

Darkson wrote:
Again, I'd give the Eurobowl squad first dibs (they seem to play quite well ), then if someone can't/doesn't want to participate, give the other squad members the chance to nominate who they'd like to see as a replacement. They were willing to put the money and time into travelling originally, so I see no reason for them not to continue, just bcause it's here (and seeing as the Eurobowl won't be held that year).

Of course, I'd love to represent Team England (only "sport" where I could ever be a representive!), but others have shown more commitment, and therefore (imo) should take priority

Not at all. For the first Eurobowl other than me and Grum I can't recall any other English interest. For the second I had a tournament for a different games system the same weekend and so could not attend. There are numerous factors that come into play for the Eurobowl team and whilst I am fully in favour of them continually getting "first dibs" for Eurobowl purposes I don't think that should apply to any other tournament.

All the more reason for this NOT to be a limited team tournament

grotuk · Post by **grotuk** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:50 am

In spain we (almost everyone) respect the Spanish Team as the Eurobowl team...but for the world cup...i do think we need a different criteria cause is not the same tourney.

Maybe the qualifiers are not the best solution but keeping the Eurobowl team for the World cup, IMHO, is not fair.

Pipey · Post by **Pipey** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:34 am

Hangus wrote:Maybe a vote to see who is the captain and then he/she/Norse picks the team

I like this idea.

Pipey · Post by **Pipey** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:35 am

...and personally would back Grum to be English team captain again (as Eurobowl)

If of course he wants the responsibility

CyberHare · Post by **CyberHare** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:40 am

Some good debate going on here so I'll throw a little fuel on the fire. Keep in mind that what I'm about to throw out IS NOT OFFICIAL. It's only what I've been thinking about.

The Tournament Organizers and a NAF representative from each country will form a selection committee. If a country has no NAF representative we'll find you one. This committe will select a Team Captain. The Team Captain will be the first player on the World Cup Team and is responsible for all team communications between the NAFWC staff and the team including making sure all result submissions are made correctly for his team at the event. This is important because it'll get out of control quickly if Teams do not have a single "go to" person. The Captain is also responsible for selecting players to form their 2007 NAF World Cup team. The Captain may do this by any means acceptable to that countries selection committee. A team captain may elect to appoint himself as a team alternate as opposed to one of the 8 standard players. His team responsibilities though do not change.

Anyway that's pretty rough but that's what I had in mind.

Yavatol · Post by **Yavatol** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:02 pm

Seems most reasonable to me.

The NAF is the closest thing the BB community has to an authoritative body. At least the NAF holds elections for key positions and is open to anyone. The authority vested by the NAF into the RTO or NTO's is backed up by the fact that these people actually contribute to the community. So I hope that the R/NTO's will be the team captains as well, and that other countries will be appointed captains by this committee as suggested by CyberHare.

But I fear that the whole idea of counry representation loosely based on online popularity or community standing will turn the whole venture in something that excludes rather than invites (at least for the Euros).

TuernRedvenom · Post by **TuernRedvenom** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:28 am

No matter how it's done for the belgian team captain it'll most likely mean scouring the gutters of the realm in the faint hopes of finding 8 guys which can and are willing to play bowl, sadly enough.

(*remembers disappointment of eb 2005*

)

Longshot · Post by **Longshot** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:44 pm

My 2 cents:
First : Great Idea

Date: I would prefer the idea to do the WorldCup instead of Eurobowl 2007 in november for example.
Date is free from most of tourny and for the next winner of Eurobowl, he knows that he will have 2 year to prepare it.

Captain: Most of European Country already have one and a team that is representative of their own country community. Should NAF elect them ? not sure about that..

Tourny: i am dreaming about a lot of things if we take the time to well think it.
4 Days of Bloodbowl in many ways...think about:
WorldCup by team, (Major point)
World Cup by individual
Beach Bowl,
Street Bowl,
...
...
Painting contest
by team,
by mini,
Other
...

Surely some time to get interview of personnalities of BB like Jervis and so on.

So i think we should start about first organise what will be the major point: World Cup by team? (but not in the same time as Individual cos some when to do both) let's imagine 16 teams

Example:
First Day: World Cup by country : Group phase (just an idea)
2 games and then First game of individual Tourny
(need to think about what other should do during the 2 games...not only be cheerleaders... some kind of funny others BB games? Beach Bowl tourny for example expet final)

Day two:
Last game of group phase and 1/4 of final And Street bowl contest (exept final ) in the same time. Then 2 nd Game of Individual Tourny.

Day 3
third and game 4 of individual tourny then Semi Final of Team WorldCup
Painting contest could start here with the vote of the public and some other painting contest like (Best mini painted in 1 hour and so on)

Day 4
Game 5 and 6 of Individual Tourny Then... Finals
Beach Bowl Finale
Street Bowl Finale
Individual Finale
Team Finale

... Yeah i know some player could be involved in more than 1 Final...
But all that was just an Idea about all that. Do you see the World Cup Event as something Like that or totally different?

Hangus · Post by **Hangus** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:30 am

i like Cybers idea of picking the Captains as it may save a bit of hassle (as an out and out vote may get me getting all my mates to sign up and voting for me to be captain

....so i would have three votes then

)

Although Longshot is French he has a good idea as well. But its a lot of organisation for Indy and Brain to sort out and as he says it maybe possible to play in more than one final.

Indigo · Post by **Indigo** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:23 am

Three votes? You sure?

And sorry it's taken me so long to get back online. I have a new desk at work now = potentially more TBB time...

Hangus · Post by **Hangus** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:32 am

Indigo wrote:Three votes? You sure?

And sorry it's taken me so long to get back online. I have a new desk at work now = potentially more TBB time...

i get mum and dad to vote

you use a pc to get online not a desk thats why you have been having problems

Longshot · Post by **Longshot** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:32 am

Hangus wrote: Although Longshot is French he has a good idea as well.

thank you about that

hoomin_erra · Post by **hoomin_erra** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:58 pm

TuernRedvenom wrote:No matter how it's done for the belgian team captain it'll most likely mean scouring the gutters of the realm in the faint hopes of finding 8 guys which can and are willing to play bowl, sadly enough. (*remembers disappointment of eb 2005* )

I have a funny feeling up here north of the wall we're going to have a similar problem!!

Jelmer · Post by **Jelmer** » Sat May 06, 2006 4:35 pm

But I fear that the whole idea of counry representation loosely based on online popularity or community standing will turn the whole venture in something that excludes rather than invites (at least for the Euros).

i must agree with Yavatol here... i think there will be enough dutch coaches wanting to go to fill at least two teams... with a captain deciding who gets to play, i think the same guys who played the eurobowls last year will have the biggest chance of being selected. there's allways a bunch of coaches who could feel they did not have a fair chance to play... a qualification tournament would give all players an equal chance...

thinking of this... i wont be in the team in either one of these options... so i got to do some serious thinking about another option