TBB Season III Update

chunky04 · Post by **chunky04** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:19 pm

It may be difficult for me to get my game with Flix in this week as well. With the timezone difference, and me being very busy this week (changing jobs and making an interstate trip for 5 days) - if you guys feel the need to forfeit the game so the tourney can continue, please forfeit in favour of Flix - being a tourney admin I'll have no problems with the decision to keep the tourney flowing.

On that note, I'd be happy to be on staff to give you a hand rob.

There are a few things I think we could do to make Season 3 a bit better IMO. First off, with the addition by Christer of
Tourneyfiller teams, it is easily possible to make an Open Round Robin that allows fresh blood to be added quite easily, which should help boost participation.

I think part of the problem is the nature of the league format. As we saw, open round robins tend to start off well, then rapidly peter out. There were very few rookie games played in the last month or so, and as someone who was looking for those last two games, its was very difficult to get a game (though my team may have had something to do with that - come on lads they're really not that mean). I realise however that due to our diverse timezones that a more formal scheduled league won't really work.

I think this can be overcome by first of all shortening the season - we could easily have scrapped the last month for very little effect, and the league would have had much more momentum. The second thing would be to do a reset of the league about halfway through. You write down the standings, reboot the league, and then edit scores to make sure everything stays the same on that front. This allows people to play twice, but only after a good opportunity to play everyone else first.

Next, I'd allow coaches that hit the 10 game limit to join with a nother team. With the aforementioned filler teams this shouldn't be a problem, and if need be you can boot inactive coaches as well. This would provide another group of active teams for people to get a game with, and also helps in that there are some more low TR teams for latecomers and late starters to play against.

Tritex · Post by **Tritex** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:23 am

chunky04 wrote: 1) I think part of the problem is the nature of the league format. As we saw, open round robins tend to start off well, then rapidly peter out. There were very few rookie games played in the last month or so
I think this can be overcome by first of all shortening the season - we could easily have scrapped the last month for very little effect, and the league would have had much more momentum.

2) The second thing would be to do a reset of the league about halfway through. You write down the standings, reboot the league, and then edit scores to make sure everything stays the same on that front. This allows people to play twice, but only after a good opportunity to play everyone else first.

3)Next, I'd allow coaches that hit the 10 game limit to join with a nother team. With the aforementioned filler teams this shouldn't be a problem, and if need be you can boot inactive coaches as well. This would provide another group of active teams for people to get a game with, and also helps in that there are some more low TR teams for latecomers and late starters to play against.

1) Agreed I played loads up front and was on line most days but once 10 games were reached I lost a lot of momentum & participation as I couldn't play anyone. Big supporter of shortening it but careful it doesn't alienate anyone with too tight constraints.

2)This over-complicates it I think - I like your other suggestoions more!

3) This is your best idea and allows a couple of games per opponent and a way to get back in the game if off to a crap start (I would suggest coach only allowed different team races though & maintain race restrictions 2 3 of each type only).

chunky04 · Post by **chunky04** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:53 am

2)This over-complicates it I think - I like your other suggestoions more!

Players wouldn't really see any complication for this one though - it would be strictly an administration side complication, and not a very big one at that. Having done this a few times in the SWL league, it really does help freshen things up a lot of the time.

3) This is your best idea and allows a couple of games per opponent and a way to get back in the game if off to a crap start (I would suggest coach only allowed different team races though & maintain race restrictions 2 3 of each type only).

Yeah, thats a good idea. There would also have to be rules about what teams are eligible for the playoffs too I would think (ie only one per coach).

Tritex · Post by **Tritex** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:46 pm

chunky04 wrote: (ie only one per coach).

Yup and stop players playing their own teams to up SPP's ...A final with both teams from same coach could be funny though.
Regards,
Jason

chunky04 · Post by **chunky04** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:46 pm

I don't believe fumbbl allows this game to be played at all. It would have to be forfeited to one team or another.

Tritex · Post by **Tritex** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:07 pm

chunky04 wrote:I don't believe fumbbl allows this game to be played at all. It would have to be forfeited to one team or another.

Unless you had two pc's

chunky04 · Post by **chunky04** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:26 am

No, even then it would have to be from two separate accounts - fumbbl simply won't allow a coach to play himself - it won't upload the results.

Melifaxis · Post by **Melifaxis** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:32 am

Flayed Rock Furies is my new rookie team

chunky04 · Post by **chunky04** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:44 am

Evil deja vu when I managed to get my game in with Flix.

Did 3 CAS in turn 3 to open the game right up for me. Flix fought on very well, but the teask was simply too big.

We also got our customary post game stat increase - +AG on a beastman this time, unfortunately it was accompanied by a free niggle, but I think complaining would bring bad karma

TuernRedvenom · Post by **TuernRedvenom** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:15 am

Sadly last season I could only get 2 games in.

But I'm up for season 3, should have a bit more time on my hands now so 1-2 games/week should be do-able.

This time I'm going with a necro team: Nightly Shifters

Tritex · Post by **Tritex** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:09 pm

Sign Me up again - just gotta decide on a team and will be right with you!!

Tritex · Post by **Tritex** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:16 pm

Can we play the new teams on FUMBBL? - Such as:
Chaos Halfling
Chaos Pact
Fairies
Gnome
Lustrian
Old World
Pygmy
Skryre Slaves
Snotling
Squig Herders
Strigoyan

I fancy trying some of these?

browwnrob · Post by **browwnrob** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:23 pm

Margaretthorn wrote:Can we play the new teams on FUMBBL? - Such as:
Chaos Halfling
Chaos Pact
Fairies
Gnome
Lustrian
Old World
Pygmy
Skryre Slaves
Snotling
Squig Herders
Strigoyan

I fancy trying some of these?

I was hoping to keep the whole affair LRB, hoping im not raining on your parade here

but I can envisage some folk not wanting to play against Chaos Pact or Squig Herders!

Chunky's suggestions sound good and sensible, cutting down the league time to 4 weeks min as there are some guys who take time finding matches

Im really liking the idea of joining with another team (max of 2 teams in the one league) but come playoffs if you happen to be in the enviable position of having 2 teams in the top 8 then you will need to choose which one you want to use

I wouldnt mind running a KO tourney alongside (probably 32 player) but to do this midseason can take some time so I was thinking about running it alongside the main league. I am still open if you would like to use TBB elite teams, or your own teams that played regular games on FUMBBL

I was hoping it would work, but was trying to use Mathais's League manager to track the SPP earners, biggest foulers, best rusher etc for a bit of league fluff but it doesnt seem to work when i upload matches to it...

Tritex · Post by **Tritex** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:48 pm

browwnrob wrote:quote="Margaretthorn"Can we play the new teams on FUMBBL? quote

I was hoping to keep the whole affair LRB, hoping im not raining on your parade here but I can envisage some folk not wanting to play against Chaos Pact or Squig Herders!

Actually fancied Old World Team as this mixed it up a bit! Never Mind Will have a look at standard teams and come back to you!!

squig87 · Post by **squig87** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:18 pm

I agree. Keep it LRB, much easier and more balenced.

As for season III, has the format been decided yet? If so, ignore my little idea below.

I have a suggestion for the new league, perhaps we could merge the elite and current rookie leagues together? The elite teams will only have played a handful more games than the current elite teams after the playoffs. This way we could have another rookie season also. Perhaps limit people to one Elite team per season. This will give people the chance to build teams they want to keep without making the elite league too vast.

Thoughts?