human catchers...st 2

[absent1]

Most of us who are posting on this thread probably have ST 1. Human catchers aren't weak by average human standards (definately not as weak as a child as someone posted); it's just that linemen, throwers and blitzers are even stronger.

um, i have to be stronger than a runty gobo. come on

[Gus]

your posts don't make any sense. first you agree that human catchers are fine, then you say they shouldn't have an ogre.

So you think humans are overpowerd?? which is contrary to what everyone else has been posting.

ok, i promised to myself i wouldn't be rude, so there we go:
i said two things, very clearly divided, throughout the post.
first (1st) thing: - i think the current human roster is NOT underpowered.
second (2nd) thing: - IF i had to change the roster and boost the catchers, it would be following the "all-normal stats" reasoning of ST3, AG3, AV8. as an offset for that huge boost, prices would have to be reworked, AND the Ogre would have to be scraped.

now, you may like or not the idea, think it is the most brilliant idea ever or that is beyond lame, i frankly don't care.
however, i DO care when people seem to have trade their eyes and brains for mud, and come and randomly flame me without any reason.
my posts do make sense, you just seem to lack the brain power. now please stop making stupid remark until you actually have a real basis for questioning what i write.

[absent1]

ok, i promised to myself i wouldn't be rude, so there we go:

You just seem to lack the brain power

[David Bergkvist]

Most of us who are posting on this thread probably have ST 1. Human catchers aren't weak by average human standards (definately not as weak as a child as someone posted); it's just that linemen, throwers and blitzers are even stronger.

um, i have to be stronger than a runty gobo. come on

You may well be stronger than an average (i e non blood bowl playing) goblin, but unless you're working out or training regularly or have a job that requires strength, you're probably not as strong as a blood bowl playing goblin.

[absent1]

where are you getting this fluff from?

[David Bergkvist]

where are you getting this fluff from?

A goblin isn't that much smaller than a human, and they're probably stronger per centimeter on average. Given enough training (which they have since it's professional blood bowl players we're talking about), they'll easily be better at blocking than someone who has never done it before. Plus the fact that only the strongest ones become blood bowl players in the first place.

[absent1]

i don't think a "pro" bb player is on average much above average to a normal person, since bb players have a high turnover (mortality) rate. I certainly don't beleive that a thrower would be as strong as a linemen, and then that is 2 pts higher than me or you.... see by your idea a thrower should really be str 2, like a strong gobo. if we are str 1, anyway, especially given the player turnover, and considering a QB and WR in the nfl are about the same strength generally, imo. (when compared with linemen and with non pro athletes)

in the end human catchers are str 2 for balance, just like a WE catcher, and because it made sense to someone who doesn't watch the NFL (the games creators) but to say a normal TBB reader is str 1 is not fitting with bb fluff imo.

[David Bergkvist]

i don't think a "pro" bb player is on average much above average to a normal person, since bb players have a high turnover (mortality) rate.

Why would the mortality rate matter? The fact that previous blood bowl players have died doesn't make the living ones weaker by any means. In fact, it should be the opposite: any weak blood bowl player is long dead already, so the living ones are the strong ones.

I certainly don't beleive that a thrower would be as strong as a linemen

They need to be strong to throw the ball.

[absent1]

mortality rate= why would the strongest, fastest, smartest even play!? they don't generally.


and a QB(throwers) being as strong as a linemen, and a WR(catchers) being weaker than a QB is a far cry from reality, sorry, we are just going to disagree on this. In HS i knew both WR and QB's, they were about the same size, linemen are far larger. QBs = WR's far more than QB= Linemen

but i agree that catchers should stay str 2
...and think just go to AV 8 to help the hummies some.

[Gus]

i think he meant that, especially in the case of gobbos and flings, they suffer such a high turnover that they cannot really train for long etc...

as for the fluff, i don't think "Strength" means pure strength, but also combination of bulk, ability to use that bulk, etc...

[absent1]

there is a lot too it, i see bloodbowl = high school american football for str and skill lvl tbh.

[Bizzy]

Well absent the creators of blood bowl is a British man I think. Usually they do not watch the NFL American football as an American would (such as myself) I am not saying anything against being British but we have to cut them a break when it comes to football.

In all honesty it isn't about fluff talking about absent and Bizzy and Gus being a blood bowl player.

It would be a lot better to start a different thread about player's strengths.

Maybe every team could use a little more balanceing weather it be to become a more strong team or worse team. There will always be a best and worst.

[absent1]

but how close the teams are from worst to best is a concern.

[Bizzy]

In my opinion any given game with equal teams should be a toss up of how good the coach is alot more then the team.

It shouldnt be humans suck WE awesome. IT should be every team is equal and each time a tournament happens any team is a good choice just like a league or even one off game.

[Gus]

ultimate balance is not possible unless everyone is given the same team with the same stats, though, i fear =/