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Post by voyagers_uk »

I have one small gripe about the new rules,

2 Ogres on a halfling team :pissed:

Now if we believe the background fluff and try to keep to the spirit of the thing then introducing 2 Ogres to the Halfling team bus would lead to 2 well fed Ogres and some small blood covered clothing leaving the bus.

It makes no sense to play for a team you regard as a staple foodstuff - I am specifiacally ignoring vampires as they are unofficial except for Luthor who should only play for Undead who apparently don't taste good. :evil:

But on the plus side having 2 large players with throw team mate good strength and realistically good armour is a bonus for a team whos idea of a stiff fight is getting the wrapper off.

I don't think it matches the spirit of the game - you cannot argue against the fun factor though :grin:

any opinions? what am I saying of course you have opinions :lol:

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Post by Norse »

Er.. maybe only gentle Ogres play on halfling teams. Like Ogres that collect flowers and knit scarves for their grandma... :puke:

To be honest, if I had a halfling team, I would buy 2 treemen instead, which I think is more in keeping with halfling fluff, but if someone wanted to spend 240,000 on 2 bone-headed guys, that is fine with me!!

By the way, I'm not sure team 'buses' exist in fantasy, unless there's a very rich dwarf somewhere who invented the infernal combustion engine specifically.... :razz:

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ok, team cart :grin:

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OK, how about team Mammoths?? Or is that just Norse? :razz:

On the same subject, I'm not sure I fully agree with Norse getting Minotaurs... :eek:

I've seen some unofficial sites with rules for Norse Snow-Trolls. As Trolls are part of Norse mythology, I would have though that might make more sense...

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true, my Norse player keeps on about the same thing.

House rules until further notice.

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Post by Longshot »

I think that the latest rules about big guys is not a good stuff. All was quite good before with big guys players. I think that putting Ogre anywhere is a nonsense. i ll keep play with the older rules about Big guys.
Why does GW change the rules that are good?
and not the bad?

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I am sure it has something do with balancing or some such :grin:

not something your average coach would understand. I am more interested in the game play than most in my league, but it comes back to fun for me, if they want a big guy and it is not to unfeasable (sp?) then fine as it is one more that I can kill/maim etc
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Since when are Ogres slobbering psychopaths? I've never seen a version of a rookie Ogre with Always Hungry. Just because they play on Orc teams doesn't make them Trolls.

Anyway, if you consider the WFB background, I believe Ogres fight for both good and evil armies. I remember reading some fluff about the whole Halfling-Treeman connection which does not exist in the WFB world. Basically, the idea was just to saddle the Halflings with the worst Big Guy.

I have seen some league web pages that allowed Halflings to take Ogres long before 4th edition.

Both Ogres and Halfling fight for the Empire in WFB and the Ogres seem to be able to control themselves there.

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Post by Trambi »

As a ogre coach, think of two ogres playing in halfing team :puke:
Sorry !
A question the halfings have still to pay the double to hire non-halfing player.

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If you are creative enough, you can easily build up legit fluff to cover why your Halflings are playing merrily with Ogres.

Case in point, the tale of the great Wendigo Gump. This is an Ogre which has played a significant role in our last few league tourneys.

Frump Gump and his wife Dumplin were a typical halfling couple. Although they were hapily married for many years they shared a sadness that came with the fact that they had no children. One evening they were coming home from a day long brunch when they heard some rustling in the woods. Remembering that Halflings like to be eaten as much as they like to eat, Frump drew his tiny sword. They quietly snuck up to a group of shrubbery where the commotion seemed to be coming from. Underneath a pile of leaves was a child. This was not an attractive child being almost the size of a full grown halfling and wrapped in a single piece of animal skin large enough to have come from a bear. It had a bumpy, nobby face and a thin lower lip that did not seem strong enough to contain it's excessive drooling. It was clear that what they had found was the infant child of an ogre. It was common in those days for one to come accross a baby ogre or troll aparently forgotten by absent minded parents. Though common in the old world, Ogres were not known to be in this part of the woods. Filled with motherly instincts, Dumplin insisted they take the child in. Although Frump felt it was a bad idea, he gave in to his wife feeling that this may be their only opportunity to ever have a child of their own. They named the child Wendigo.
Wendigo grew up quickly, towering over everyone in the village by the time he could walk. At the age of 3, Wendigo could already out-eat any halfling in the shire. This skill was something that Frump was especially proud of in his son. Word of Wendigo's abilities spread accross the land. Before long Scouts of many halfling Blood Bowl teams began knocking on the Gump's door looking to acquire the young ogre. Being brought up in a peaceful nature, Wendigo at first did not want to play this bloody sport. His mind changed quickly when the Greenway Belly-Packers offered him all the sweet buns he could eat. Being an ogre, Wendigo would not be a cheap belly to fill, but would prove worth it in the long run. Upon seeing the first halfling get crunched (in a game where Greenway took on the Knorthern Knights of Khorne) Wendigo went into a frenzy and single-handedly took apart the Knights defensive line. Finally feeling his agressive ogre nature, Wendigo has become one of the most formidable players in halfling team history.

I know it's a little rough, but it kinda give some reasons to why an ogre would be seen in the presence of halflings.

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Post by GalakStarscraper »

Just as a footnote here.

Ogres cost double for a halfling team so they cost 240k EACH so if you want 2 Ogres it will run you 480k vs the 220k for 2 Treemen. Jervis confirmed at this was the case just a few months as did Acerak/Chet.

The reason they don't eat the little guys is they are WELL-PAID Ogres ... :D

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By the way, I'm not sure team 'buses' exist in fantasy, unless there's a very rich dwarf somewhere who invented the infernal combustion engine specifically....
Umm...no busses but chainsaws and cyborcs?
How do them chainsaws work if there isn't internal combustion? Why can't they have horseless carriages?

My question is how does that new Anvil of Doom get around with no wheels? And how does the Skaven bell thing turn?

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As I understood the Bloodbowl-Setting right, there is an equivalent of
Team-Buses, planes (yes *S* and chainsaws and cyborgs).

Since the begining of BB it played somwhere in the far futur of Warhammer setting. So no real Fantasy ;o)

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