Fan Factor - Resurrection style

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 3:48 pm

Does anyone have a breakdown of the FF of the teams at Resurrection in order of their finish.

There was a debate about the value of FF on one-off games and I'm wondering if Resurrection which was a tournament of one off matches proved or disproved the value of FF based on the final standing of the 80 teams ... any help is appreciated.

Galak

Piepgrass · Post by **Piepgrass** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 3:50 pm

Since i wasnt at the ressurection. Would someone please post the rules that the tournement was played with.

Thanks in advance.

Poul

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 3:58 pm

Galak: You'll need to get that info from AndyH or somebody else at GW, I'd be keen to know the average as well.

Poul:
"All Teams must be rookie teams with a starting value of 1,000,000 and a TR of 100. All models in your team must be appropriate or converted Citadel miniatures. All models must be painted. This means more than an undercoat!
The tournament is a one-day event that will be played over four games. The structure will be a Swiss-style format, this means that for each round the rank of the team will determine the opponent. Teams will be ranked after each game using the following criteria in the order given: Tournament points, touchdowns scored, casualties caused.
Tournament Points
This is how we will rank you throughout the tournament and will be the largest deciding factor of who the winner will be. You will record your score on the results card after each game from the list below.
Win 3 points
Draw 2 points
Lost by one 2 points
Lost by two or more 1 point
Concede 0 points
Sportsmanship
At the end of the last game you will be asked to nominate the most sporting player. Each nomination a player receives will earn him 1 Tournament point.
Painting
Up to three Tournament points are awarded for team painting. You get one point for each of the below criteria achieved. (The judges decision is final).
+1 Painted: The team is painted, all models have at least 3 colours on them.
+1 Detailed: All models have had the details of the model painted in a variety of colours or with noticeable effects. This discriminates between the merely painted team and the team that has had attention paid to it.
+1 Striking: The Team makes the judges literally go "Wow!"
During lunch the judges will round up what they deem to be the three best painted teams in the tournament. Through out lunch you will be able to vote on what you believe is the best-painted team. The winner will receive a special prize at the end of the day.
Team Building
Four games is not really enough for the league rules to take effect but we still want to give players the feeling of team building and management so we've come up with this simple but hopefully effective system. After every game you may pick a skill and give it to one of your players. You may not stack additional skills on players so only one new skill per player. Players may only take skills from the relevant skill categories, so no Chaos Dwarfs with Pass etc. Note: you can only gain skills not traits. This system replaces the League and Star Player points system in the Blood Bowl handbook.
Referees
Ref's will be on hand throughout the day. Try and sort any queries or misdemeanours between yourselves. However if you really need to you can call over the ref. His decision is always right; if he says a Dwarf can fly, you say "how high?" In the case of any unpleasantness the refs have two cards a yellow and a red. If you are shown a yellow card then you will lose 5 points, if you are shown a red then you will lose a whooping 10 points. The moral here is to remember that at the end of the day we are playing with little toy men so lets have fun and make sure the refs keep their cards in their pockets.
The Glittering Prizes
At the end of the day the overall winner will receive the Blood Bowl Resurrection Cup. Other prizes will be awarded for Best Sportsman, Best Painted Team and Most Touchdowns (plus any other awards we think of in the meantime).
The Teams
Only the official teams as of the 2001 rules review maybe entered into Resurrection. To clarify so there is no doubt they are: Human, Orc, Dwarf, High Elf, Skaven, Dark Elf, Chaos, Chaos Dwarf, Undead, Goblin, Halfling, Wood Elf, Norse, Lizardman and Amazon teams.
No other teams are allowed. Teams must be written out on the official Death Zone team pad. You must bring two copies, give one to the officials at registration, and keep the other one for your own reference. Make sure your team is correct, as team rosters will be checked and any mistakes (even if not deliberate) will result in that player getting a yellow card.
Star Players
You may use a Star Player if you wish they cost the full price on the card and may not be given any skills during the tournament. You may only use the officially sanctioned Star Players from the 2001 Blood Bowl rules review. See www.bloodbowl.com for the official list of Star Players if you are unsure. "

Anthony_TBBF · Post by **Anthony_TBBF** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 3:58 pm

We didn't record FF anywhere, but I can tell you mine was 6 (I think). I know some teams took a FF of 1... not something I would do. The extra helped me on the Kickoff Table every game.

Piepgrass · Post by **Piepgrass** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 4:03 pm

thanks a lot

Poul

neoliminal · Post by **neoliminal** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 5:26 pm

Anthony_TBBF wrote:We didn't record FF anywhere, but I can tell you mine was 6 (I think). I know some teams took a FF of 1... not something I would do. The extra helped me on the Kickoff Table every game.

I went with a 1 FF because it allowed me to field all the position players I wanted to field plus some RR's. The amount you pay for FF is too high, IMO, to be helpful in one off games, but that's not why I went with a lower one.

Anthony_TBBF · Post by **Anthony_TBBF** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 5:29 pm

What place did you come in again?

I think a decent FF is a good idea if you are playing a team that can score alot, I doubt I would have taken a high FF at Res if I was playing a strength team. I would probably use the same roster again at Res next time if I was playing Norse.

neoliminal · Post by **neoliminal** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 5:33 pm

Anthony_TBBF wrote:What place did you come in again?

Well a couple years ago at the thing called the Orion Cup, I nearly won the whole thing using this same roster... but there were some beardy snottling rules.

Lucien Swift · Post by **Lucien Swift** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 5:44 pm

i think a beardy snotling is a gnome....

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 7:42 pm

LOL @ Lucien!

6 FF worked for Chet, but how often are you gonna roll 2 pitch invasions?
I went with FF3, it got me a TRR in my first game against WE with (I think) a FF of 1. It didn't help me any in game 4 when a thrown rock took out my DP skeleton for the game on the opening KO, despite my opponent having FF1.
Ajfalco went with FF1 (in the tournament's most abusive roster

), Longfang went with FF2. Anthony's and Chet's were probably amongst the highest there, and it seemed to work for them.

Pantera · Post by **Pantera** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 8:41 am

But if two teams with really low FF meet each other, the income will get bad, wont it?

Hmm.. or maybe not.

Average roll
1FF = 3-4k fans
2FF = 7k fans
3FF = 10-11k fans
4FF = 14k fans
5FF = 17-18k fans
6FF = 21k fans
7FF = 24-25k fans
8FF = 28k fans
9FF = 31-32k fans

Every 20k +1 fans give 10k gold extra

So if you have 1FF you would need 7FF to get that 10k gold extra, and you lose 60k gold in the process getting 7FF, which is 6 games.

[Btw, I suck at statistics, so you may correct me ;]

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 10:49 am

Resurrection style means no gate and no gold. FF affects only the KO table rolls.

Sputnik · Post by **Sputnik** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 1:29 pm

Hi there!

I got a few more questions to the resurrection rules:

Injuries/death for the next matches??

Allies like big guys?? If yes, which team has access to which big guy??

Can FF raise/get lower after each match??

Can I have less than eleven players to start with (no, I won't anyway, but just to be sure...)

Thanx in advance

Sputnik

christer · Post by **christer** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 1:33 pm

I'm not entirely sure about this, but I believe resurrection style means that you use the _exact_ same roster for all matches you play. No modifications whatsoever.

Other than that, it's just like any other league. LRB plus possibly some house rules. (Or whatever ruleset they happen to like)

-- Christer

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 1:41 pm

Yep, vanilla 2k1, with all relevent rules for Big Guys etc. Injuries and deaths do not carry over, the only change is to your original roster is the skill increases.