DE Team

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 7:51 am

Hey I'm new to Blood Bowl

I starting up a Dark Elf Team called 'The Dark Bladers'

It cosists of

6 Linemen
1 Witch Elf
3 Blitzers
1 Thrower
1 Re-Roll
and a fan factor of 2

Can anyone give me some tips?

slup · Post by **slup** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 7:53 am

Sacrifice some positionplayers for a higher fanfactor.
DE is a very expensive team to run, you will need the higher income

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:02 am

What say drop the Wirch Elf and add another 4 on to the Fan Factor?

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:05 am

Buy 3 re-rolls and get a FF of about 9. Then start buying your players. You won't get much but you will develop much better in the long run. Your setting yourself up for trouble with the starting line up you have plumped for.

Rupert · Post by **Rupert** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 9:27 am

There are many posts on starting DE. General consensus is that 2 blitzers 9 lineelves 2 RR and FF=7 is a good and flexible start.

The two blitzers gives you just the extra move and blocking power you ned to get a good start with the team.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 9:46 am

Yeah, do a search Ryan, you will get a lot more info much quicker.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 9:11 pm

OK after a Little re-work on the Team it now looks like this

1 Thrower
2 Blitzers
8 Linemen
2 Team Re-Rolls
and a Fan Factor of 5

I've also found a Name Generatot so that base is covered as well

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kaboom · Post by **kaboom** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 12:24 pm

Ryan wrote:OK after a Little re-work on the Team it now looks like this

1 Thrower
2 Blitzers
8 Linemen
2 Team Re-Rolls
and a Fan Factor of 5

I've also found a Name Generatot so that base is covered as well

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it's a good roster,but choose a lineman instead of your trhower,and ad some FF.
you'll buy your thrower later!

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 7:04 am

7 FF is really the Minimum with any elf team. The aforementioned 2 Blitz, 9 line, 2rr, 7 FF has been my most successful. I have played around with quite a few.

If you go much lower in the FF you really get hurt on the earnings, possibly not even getting your apoth after the first game. That alone could really set you back especcially if you are unlucky enough to take some permanant (including death) injuries in your first game.

I also tried starting with less than 2 RR's. AG 4 means that everything is a 2+ but any decent opponent will make you roll at least 8 of those a turn, meaning that you are most likely going to blow something and, according to Murphy, something big.

Throwers are a must for any later elf team, but Dark elves can go quite a long way without one. So I definately would lose that.

Remember:
Your linemen are position players.
Your Witchelves strike fear into your opponent, and can push or pull a game back into your favor.
But your Blitzers are your Bread and Butter. Start with a few, and then fill them out, and in order to do that you need money, and high FF to start.

Asperon Thorn

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 7:29 pm

Can't agree more. FF 5 is still way too low.

Rupert · Post by **Rupert** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 7:44 pm

Most agree that high FF (7+) is needed by the elf teams and I'll go with the two blitzers nine lineelves any time BUT notice that Ryan is new to BB.

As a rookie you are likley to start the team over once you have played a few games and realised all the mistakes you've made - and as a rookie it will be hard to play without a few skills so maybe a low FF and some positionplayers are not so bad after all

best,
Rupert

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:09 pm

No Rupert, he was asking for advice, no one is attacking him. Best to learn quicker than slower.

Rupert · Post by **Rupert** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:59 pm

Sorry if you got that impression. I dont think anyone was attacking - I think Ryan got good advice. What I was suggesting was an alternative approach cos he is a rookie and I was suggesting that maybe the best starting line is not the best for a rookie who are in the process of learning the game?

I say there are two alternatives, Ryan:

1) You listen to the good advice and make a starting team with high FF (7 or more) and at least two RR's. This is if you think you will stay with the team and you build for long term play.

2) You go with many positionplayer and low FF This will learn you the use of some skills and give you some nice plays to boost your enjoyment - but you will have to start the team over after some games.

What I would advice against is that you place your self between two chairs with FF 3-6.

best,
Rupert

Asperon Thorn · Post by **Asperon Thorn** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:08 pm

Rupert wrote:2) You go with many positionplayer and low FF This will learn you the use of some skills and give you some nice plays to boost your enjoyment - but you will have to start the team over after some games.

Well if he is going to play one-off games, which he should be doing to get the feel of things, I would recommend a different roster.

Something like This team.

You get all your positions, and decent rerolls. But by no means would I recommend that for league play.

Asperon Thorn

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:36 pm

Point taken, but I would still start with a League team and learn on the go. At least you keep the same team. You the search option on this site to learn about tactics and skills.