GW's Triple B League --- TBB WE NEED YOUR VOTES!!!

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:02 pm

I like the change to Piling On, and that's coming from a Dwarf coach!!

Don't like the rest of the changes though, especially those gawd awful desperate measure tables... I sincerely hope this is not about to go "live" though, as I could see a lot of leagues not conforming and then we end up with the "terrible 5th Edition" scenario all over... different leagues house-ruling things, leaving things out and generally inventing their own set of rules...

Basically, I REALLY do not like this at all...

noodle · Post by **noodle** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:15 pm

That happens in a lot of leagues already - you will NEVER please evryone all of the time...

However - these changes look like displeasing most of the people most of the time

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:25 pm

Allow me to clarify as requested by Galak...

I'm happy with the change to Piling On.

I'm not OK with any of the other 7 things being mooted. I want randomness out the game (it is random enough already, we use dice!) not some stupid anvil falling on my Dwarf cage..

Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.

Valen · Post by **Valen** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:29 pm

Mistake me if I am wrong but would we not have this wonderful game if it was not for JJ?

Although his rule changes may be a little strange, we have alot too be grateful for.

Oh sod it he is just wrong with most of these changes

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:39 pm

I still believe JJ is Toby in disguise (or vice versa)

Valen · Post by **Valen** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:39 pm

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:42 pm

Yes, I mean it, he was the only one who liked the new ideas and his english is far too good to him being a German!

mrcoffee182 · Post by **mrcoffee182** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 2:14 pm

EXPERIMENTAL!!!!!

sorry... had to get that word out.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:44 pm

Arkeo wrote: 2) Undecided. It is never fun to kill your opponents players (except that bloody Gutter Runner who just scored on you), but maybe it slows up the skillprogress.

this man is undoubtably the only one I've ever seen say this in blood bowl. Turely he must be a saint

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 5:19 pm

Well there you go, even GW don't really like ageing!! One of the rules to cause most controversy and they don't even play it.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 5:29 pm

no they are testing rules that don't use aging cause so many people moan about it

McDeth · Post by **McDeth** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:19 pm

1) Advanced SPP table
No dont like it's already hard enough to get the majority of your players to a second skill level already

2) No injury mods change

Dont like this either cant see any problem with how it stands at the mo, and this helps create player turnover

3) No more auto +1 to AV for fouling, remove IGMEOY and Referee rolls, eject only on AV doubles, Dirty Player is for AV only.

Dont like this either, the people who dont foul because of fear of IGMEOY are fearing it for the wrong reasons, this i think was one of the best rules created in Bloodbowl, as it actually creates an environment, where serious foulers wont give a toss about IGMEOY anyway, and it enables afety conscious coaches to sit on the counter.

4) No more aging

happy to see it removed, although i dont care either way

5) No more handicap table ... new tables for game effects based on TR
definitely needs addressing, although the new tables i've seen in the pdf file dont address the problem with inconsistent handicap rolls as far as i can see. Plus i seriously do not like handicap rolls that can cause immediate turnovers or be used in your opponents turn, this was one of the reasons (IMO) third edition died.

6) Piling On changed to AV reroll

This is apile of cack. I dont use piling on, but the day a halfling can pile on as well as a Mummy, just isn't plausible, there still needs to be some attention paid to size or strength. It was the +5 monstyers that caused the problem, it wiould have been resolved by making the piling on before the av, and possible reducing the modifiers. +1 for up to ST3, +2 for ST4, and +3 for St5 and above.

7) New winnings table 15k bands

I can live with this i haven't a strong opinion either way

8. ) Negative winnings rules

Dont think this is good at all, far too drastic, if it means that a side can actually owe money after a game, or have to release players

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BullBear · Post by **BullBear** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:02 pm

6) Piling On changed to AV reroll

This is apile of cack. I dont use piling on, but the day a halfling can pile on as well as a Mummy, just isn't plausible, there still needs to be some attention paid to size or strength. It was the +5 monstyers that caused the problem, it wiould have been resolved by making the piling on before the av, and possible reducing the modifiers. +1 for up to ST3, +2 for ST4, and +3 for St5 and above.

Excellent!! This is the best PO idea posted on this thread. One I could get behind - but I'd go +2, +3, +4 to the AV to seperate it from MB.

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:13 pm

BullBear wrote:Excellent!! This is the best PO idea posted on this thread. One I could get behind - but I'd go +2, +3, +4 to the AV to seperate it from MB.

Many moons ago I suggested 1/2 the strength of the player, rounded up.

Grasshopper · Post by **Grasshopper** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:28 pm

Can't they just make up their minds?... they have more revisions and editions than the projects on this old house.

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