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Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:41 am
by Leipziger
The results for that poll were:
49% for keeping the 2019 tiering
29% for having an alternate tiering
22% for no tiering at all
Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:29 am
by lunchmoney
How many respondents?
Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:21 am
by Wagz
Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:42 am
by Leipziger
People selecting the ‘alternate tiering’ option were asked to elaborate but (iirc) only one person did. They suggested the 7 tiers that UKTC are running with next January.
Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:48 pm
by Wotfudboy
I'm probably going to be controversial here, but will NAF Champs teams required to be painted this year? Perhaps even enforced or made clearer as a requirement for entry? No more all metal teams, or just primed. This is a major after all!
With Contrast paints out then now then there's even less excuse not to paint teams!
Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:14 am
by malcbutch
paid....now to decide on which team that I have never played to take...
Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:27 pm
by Roblematic
Wotfudboy wrote:I'm probably going to be controversial here, but will NAF Champs teams required to be painted this year? Perhaps even enforced or made clearer as a requirement for entry? No more all metal teams, or just primed. This is a major after all!
With Contrast paints out then now then there's even less excuse not to paint teams!
As a TO I've thought about this a few times with my own events. The problem with a blanket ban on unpainted mini is that its a barrier to enter, not everyone can has accesses a painted team. Personal I prefer playing with 2 painted teams, but if the event is meant to be open to everyone the fewer restriction the better. The way I deal with it as a TO is to a lend out teams (or anything else) and to have painting as a tiebreaker, that way it hopefully wont make much different on the lower tables with the new coaches but theoretical someone could drop place if there team isn't painted.
Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:41 pm
by howlinggriffon
Roblematic wrote:[As a TO I've thought about this a few times with my own events. The problem with a blanket ban on unpainted mini is that its a barrier to enter, not everyone can has accesses a painted team. Personal I prefer playing with 2 painted teams, but if the event is meant to be open to everyone the fewer restriction the better. The way I deal with it as a TO is to a lend out teams (or anything else) and to have painting as a tiebreaker, that way it hopefully wont make much different on the lower tables with the new coaches but theoretical someone could drop place if there team isn't painted.
The only restrictions on the miniatures from last years' NAF Champs was that they were miniatures rather than proxies and painted, clearly identifiable and appropriate for people of all ages. So this isn't a new rule. It just wasn't acted on. Wotfudboy's last game of the NAF last year was against an unpainted team - and as it was on table four it's not like it was miles away from referees walking past. This is all sounding overly harsh on the ref team though - and they did a brilliant job so I'm not having a dig at them. It's more that everyone attending really should try to have a painted team with them. Don't have a painted team? Borrow one from your mates / ask the refs / post on TFF. Maybe just paint one in between now and the eight months until the event. It's THE NAF Championship - the major Blood Bowl tournament after all. It's supposed to be special.
Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:11 pm
by lunchmoney
My post from 2015 feedback.....
http://talkfantasyfootball.org/viewtopi ... 6&#p731056
- The rules pack clearly states "There is no restriction on what miniatures you use in
your team as long as they are miniatures (not proxies) and are
painted, clearly identifiable and appropriate for people of all ages." Several non-painted teams were present. Not sure what you can do to enforce that on the day, maybe dock a point, but why have the rule if it's not enforced?
This is not a new subject.

Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:19 pm
by BillyDee
I have played against an unpainted proxy team at the NAFC before. My eyesight isn't the best, so it was a tad confusing.
I'm unlikely to reach the heights of table 4 (although an admin error once meant I played at table eight...), but playing a painted team is definitely better than playing an unpainted or primed one.
I agree that it is difficult to enforce, but in the past I have lent a fully painted team to someone who requested one on this forum.
Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:21 pm
by lunchmoney
BillyDee wrote:... in the past I have lent a fully painted team to someone who requested one on this forum.
Me, last year.

Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:50 pm
by BillyDee
That was the PKQ Stunty Cup winning team, I hope they behaved for you..!
Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:09 am
by ceetee
Paid for me and Deetee!
Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:08 am
by howlinggriffon
Oh - paid and hotel booked

Re: The NAF Championships 2020: 9th and 10th May - 10 Years
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:56 pm
by deeferdan
lunchmoney wrote:My post from 2015 feedback.....
http://talkfantasyfootball.org/viewtopi ... 6&#p731056
- The rules pack clearly states "There is no restriction on what miniatures you use in
your team as long as they are miniatures (not proxies) and are
painted, clearly identifiable and appropriate for people of all ages." Several non-painted teams were present. Not sure what you can do to enforce that on the day, maybe dock a point, but why have the rule if it's not enforced?
This is not a new subject.

I think the only difference this year will be an explicit statement regarding eligibility to win ANY prizes if your team in unpainted. Enforcement is quite difficult when people are paying to be present, but we will be more proactive this year.