Hypnotic Gaze and some other question

[Bikerbob]

And again to q2. In rules is written u can use it only after the end of Move action, BUT the opponent has also a Move action a also sometimes his move action ends

Its definitely ONLY that player's Move action that can be used for HGaze.

Galak

I understand you Galak, and I also understand that LRB4 took sooo long to get out because they wanted to edit it, to make sure wording errors like this did not happen, but...

"The player has a powerful telepathic ability that he can use to stun an
opponent into immobility. The player may use the hypnotic gaze at the
end of any Move action on one opposing player who is in an adjacent
square."

This is the way they decided to word it. I will admit that for the first month or so, I too beleived that it was at the end of ANY move action.

Not any move action made by the hypnotic player. To be perfectly honest Vampires in my opinion are such a crap team it would be nice if this was the rule, then maybe!!! they might stand a chance.

James

[GalakStarscraper]

Updated Vault's version based on this:

changed "any Move action" to "his Move action"

Galak

[Gus]

come on, you can't possibly think it was at the end of ANY move action...

[GalakStarscraper]

come on, you can't possibly think it was at the end of ANY move action...

Actually I've gotten quite used to players either literally reading skills or common misinterpretations.

So its a simple change to make it clear.

Galak

[Ravage]

this may have been asked in the past but i only just thought of it...

if HG can be used at the end of any move action made by the player, does that mean a vamp with Pass Block could HG a receiver after moving next to the catcher? Pass Block does say it should be treated as a Move action.

"OK, I'm going to pass from thrower A to catcher B"

"Alright, I move my vamp 3 places to a square next to catcher B, and successfully Hypno Gaze him. Oh look, the ball gets thrown to him but he can't even try and catch it!"

[Gus]

@Galak
of course, it is simple and thus if it can help, why not doing it huh ? still, i find it strange.

EDIT:
@Ravage
Pass Block is not a "Move Action". so no =)

[GalakStarscraper]

Pass Block does say it should be treated as a Move action.

Actually the FAQ specially says that Pass Block is NOT a Move Action.

Galak

[Cooper]

just to be certain:

you need to count all TZ, right? not like with blocking etc? I mean, you cannot cancel those negative modifiers by putting someone next to the one putting TZs on the vampire?

Thx,
W

[Gorbad]

just to be certain:

you need to count all TZ, right? not like with blocking etc? I mean, you cannot cancel those negative modifiers by putting someone next to the one putting TZs on the vampire?

Yes, all TZ other than the TZ of the intended victim.

[Cooper]

just to be certain:

you need to count all TZ, right? not like with blocking etc? I mean, you cannot cancel those negative modifiers by putting someone next to the one putting TZs on the vampire?

Yes, all TZ other than the TZ of the intended victim.

Any reason why this is handled differently than blocking or fouling?
Would it have been too good? would a vampireteam have been too good?
Because i doubt both

I mean, those are the 2 other offensive things that work with TZ's, for me it would be more logical if those work the same.

Thx,
W

[Gorbad]

just to be certain:

you need to count all TZ, right? not like with blocking etc? I mean, you cannot cancel those negative modifiers by putting someone next to the one putting TZs on the vampire?

Yes, all TZ other than the TZ of the intended victim.

Any reason why this is handled differently than blocking or fouling?
Would it have been too good? would a vampireteam have been too good?
Because i doubt both

I mean, those are the 2 other offensive things that work with TZ's, for me it would be more logical if those work the same.

Thx,
W

Hypnotic Gaze is an AG roll, just like Dodges, Catches, Pickups, Passes, etc. If not specifically stated that it's different, those are the base rules.

I'd think countering TZ's for an AG roll would seem illogical.

[Cooper]

Yes, all TZ other than the TZ of the intended victim.

Any reason why this is handled differently than blocking or fouling?
Would it have been too good? would a vampireteam have been too good?
Because i doubt both

I mean, those are the 2 other offensive things that work with TZ's, for me it would be more logical if those work the same.

Thx,
W

Hypnotic Gaze is an AG roll, just like Dodges, Catches, Pickups, Passes, etc. If not specifically stated that it's different, those are the base rules.

I'd think countering TZ's for an AG roll would seem illogical.

you're right. It can be seen in this list as well. I still see it more logical seeing at as something offensive though


And it would make gazing and vampires a little better

W