Fouling on the last turn...

[Waldorf28]

I've got no problems with T16 fouls, if that's how you want to play, then good for you.
In return, I expect you to allow me to feel you're a c*ck.

I had to read that a few times to be sure it wasn't a proposition!

Yes you can feel I'm a male chicken if it makes you happy.

You really are a very angry person aren't you? If this was my gaff I'd want my moderators to be more, I dunno, moderate.

[dode74]

Ah, seems I misread...

[Waldorf28]

Post in haste, repent at leisure

[voyagers_uk]

Most are, but I would hope that somewhere we would find equal praise for moderators to match the vitriol



Oh wait... That never happens

[Waldorf28]

Moderating is a tough job. Everyone's a critic.

I guess that when it's done well it's invisible. Perhaps that's why good mods don't get the praise they deserve.

[Chris]

Honestly at the end of the day it is tactical. PLaying MM? Kill his killers, they will do you less damage in the future, in fact kill anything that is TV efficient. Playing in a league? Leave him in a pristine condition if he can't threaten you because you need him at his best to play your opponents. Conversly if he is ahead of you and you need him to lose a few games, cripple the blighter. I played one chap in tier 2 of the OCC last season, we were both getting promoted, he is a better player than me and so I set out to cripple his team once luck put me safely in the lead with as many fouls as possible. He still won his first game in div 1
Anyone who says oh I always do it, why don't you always leap your wardancer every turn to make it like she is dancing? Fouling is a decision like any other in bloodbowl, there should be a reason behind it or you are just messing around and when I game takes more than an hour, bit annoying for your opponent.

[Waldorf28]

My argument is that there is always a reason to do it, even if it doesn't secure you an advantage in any given fixture. It affects the decisions your future opponents make. But I've participated in so many debates of this nature that I know a consensus will not be reached and no-one will change their mind. So I'll dip out of this thread before Darkson tries to touch my winky again .

[Heff]

In return, I expect you to allow me to feel you're a c*ck.

You may beg, you may plead, but you are not feeling it.

Grammar dear boy

[Vanguard]

Statistically, if I'm playing a perpetual league and I'm the only one who T16 Fouls then I should be suffering less casualties than the rest and have a stronger team.
Equally, if everyone is doing it, then the increase in casualties will lead to a generally lower league TV than it would otherwise. This will favour the teams with cheaper, expendable players and those that prefer lower TV matches. Therefore, if I'm playing one of them, I want to encourage that kind of league.
The meta-game of a particular league can be important, so it's worth looking at.

[dode74]

Good grief, it was a joke

[spubbbba]

Anyone who translates their personal animosity towards a human opponent into in-game actions is a tool. I'm gonna foul ya whether I love or hates ya .

Anyone who allows takes a T16 foul against them as a personal slight has self-esteem issues and should play something else.

Surely it depends on the spirit of the foul though? What if the T16 foul is because the coach took actions you made in T1-15 (stalling, surfing, "excessive" blocking etc) as a personal slight and means the foul as a big "up yours"?

Most people aren't bothered by someone tactically fouling to take out a key player and try to win the game. I'd say the majority don't mind the killer coaches who foul and pile on all the time as they just want blood, mind you they can get a little tedious if they ignore the ball and they make up the majority of your opponents.

However if the T16 foul is done in spite then I think it is only natural to think a little less of that coach. Even if it is because they think you actually care that they killed your star player.

[DixonCider]

I rarely foul turn 16, unless it is while I play online and am painting and don't realize what turn it is or if I HAVE to injure a player to stop a score on turn 16

[MattDakka]

T16-fouling and killing a clawpomb CW is priceless.

[frogboy]

Well I got taken to school last night in the art of Dirty Tricks, seriously couldn't do a thing after making a few mistakes and getting a few bad kick off results it's hard not to feel like giving up. I didn't give up but I did feel like it at points during the very one sided game.

I'm sure my opponent will take satisfaction in knowing that he almost made me Rage Quit

So in conclusion T16 fouls are sometimes funny, but if your on the receiving end its probably because you is a rubbish player like me, also I've found out that High Elves are propper shit and it's much more fun and less stressful for mathematically challenged coaches like myself to choose teams which are more suited to our inferior mind sets and just get a point and click team. But note to self, must remember to put the brakes on towards the end of the second half if I'm doing loads of killing, otherwise I might find myself saying " Oops it's T16 and I just broke sumfin' "

[Elyoukey]

Statistically, if I'm playing a perpetual league and I'm the only one who T16 Fouls then I should be suffering less casualties than the rest and have a stronger team.

i do believe the opposite, since turn 16 foul will not affect your current game cas total, but will affect your opponent firepower for the next game (game that he will probably not play against you), with his firepower lowed down, his future opponent is more likely to have an easier game and therefore farm a better team. That better team that you may face later.