Announcing the NAF World Cup 19, 20, and 21 of October, 2007

TuernRedvenom · Post by **TuernRedvenom** » Fri May 19, 2006 9:01 am

Longshot wrote: Then... The date is still a pain.. Change it to November 2007 will be better for everybody and giving much more time to think and organise it...

Yep, for Belgium getting a team together for eurobowl 2006 and a few months later WC 2007 will be pretty impossible. And I think the WC will be dropped by team belgium then as it's in the UK and as such much more expensive then Italy.

RolleriÃ±o · Post by **RolleriÃ±o** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:46 pm

grotuk wrote:
Teluriel wrote:How about this:

first day: every player from each country can participate...
Second day: the four best players from each country go through to "the world cup" and the rest continues with the other tournament.

No...favourites
No problem with the amount of coaches for each country (i suppose each country can at least produce 4 coaches).
Everybody is motivated to play and continue to play.
I'll go with 6 best players of each country but yep...that one its good. Also...the 6 best with different races...so a WE is first and fourth...the fourth is not part of the team and instead the seventh is in.

If we can achieve the nobody-plays-a-player-for-the-same-country thing the first day we can considere the day one results for both tourneys.

I really like this idea.

I really like this idea too!!!
Now in Italy we have a lot of "travelling" coach. If the team tournament is closed it wouldn't represent the country, but only the captain and, probably, his circle... and only two or three cheerleader will follow them to the tournament. So only a few coach for a side tournament...
Let it open and a lot of coaches will try to defend the honour of their countries!
I think that this is not agaist Eurobowl organization, as Longshot said, is only something different: OPEN!!!

Last year in Italy we have a lot of qualifier tournaments played in differents cities. The tournaments had a big number of coaches attending and they are motivate to do the best for qualifing... and Italy won the eurobowl 05... I think that that system worked well!

Post by **Dave** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:53 am

If we can achieve the nobody-plays-a-player-for-the-same-country thing the first day we can considere the day one results for both tourneys.

that doesn't work .. a country with 8 coaches attending has less chance on all 8 players winning all their matches while a country with 80 coaches attending has a much bigger shot at that. It would not be fair at all to use these scores for the big title.

Besides this I'd prefer the team thing[/quote]

grotuk · Post by **grotuk** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:53 am

Dave wrote:
If we can achieve the nobody-plays-a-player-for-the-same-country thing the first day we can considere the day one results for both tourneys.
that doesn't work .. a country with 8 coaches attending has less chance on all 8 players winning all their matches while a country with 80 coaches attending has a much bigger shot at that. It would not be fair at all to use these scores for the big title.

Besides this I'd prefer the team thing

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Yep, thats true. Then we only keep this thing for the individual tourney and not the team one. The only problem i can see now is that the team tournament will be in 6 games...not 9 as in the first idea. But 6 games thinking that will be around 12-14 teams (beeing positive)...its not a bad deal.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:17 am

grotuk wrote:
Teluriel wrote:How about this:

first day: every player from each country can participate...
Second day: the four best players from each country go through to "the world cup" and the rest continues with the other tournament.

No...favourites
No problem with the amount of coaches for each country (i suppose each country can at least produce 4 coaches).
Everybody is motivated to play and continue to play.
I'll go with 6 best players of each country but yep...that one its good. Also...the 6 best with different races...so a WE is first and fourth...the fourth is not part of the team and instead the seventh is in.

If we can achieve the nobody-plays-a-player-for-the-same-country thing the first day we can considere the day one results for both tourneys.

So, first day...meeting, painting contests and so...second day..3 or 4 games qualifier. Third day individual and team games 5th to 7th, and the fourth day 8th to 9th or to 10th....

I really like this idea.

Sounds good - far less cliquey than the Eurobowl system. If you want to attract as many people as possible, you need to give them as many reasons to attend as possible. The main reason to go to the World Cup seems to be to meet people you would otherwise never get the chance to meet. Playing in the billy no-mates side tourney whilst the "cool kids" play in the real deal seems less attractive.

Especially if they are in a separate room.

The system above is fair and gives everyone who enters some chance to take part fully. Essentially you are holding the qualifiers at the tournament itself. I understand the team selection process for the Eurobowl is based on commitment, and that is cool. But the World Cup is a totally different event, is it not?

grotuk · Post by **grotuk** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:19 am

Nazgit wrote:The system above is fair and gives everyone who enters some chance to take part fully. Essentially you are holding the qualifiers at the tournament itself. I understand the team selection process for the Eurobowl is based on commitment, and that is cool. But the World Cup is a totally different event, is it not?

For me, absolutely!! Maybe it has a similar system but its not intended to be a world's team Eurobowl.

I was thinking a little more on this system and we can add a little of complexity and some tie-breaker to the team games if we add a bonus for the average point earnt in the first day competition. Maybe the best average get 20 points, the second 19 and so on..this way every player of each country feel as he is contributing for the victory of his country and allows to players who lose his 2 games feel that he need a win for their country.

Also, if the tickets have a big demand...i'll create a cap of players for each country, around 20, cause other way the english are gonna be a lot and maybe players from other countries are gonna be out from it.

Just quick thougths.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:22 am

Cool system let me phone sven, maybe I can take part vs paraguay.

grotuk · Post by **grotuk** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:45 am

Grumbledook wrote:Cool system let me phone sven, maybe I can take part vs paraguay.

Pipey · Post by **Pipey** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:49 am

Can you play for Costa Rica now Grum?

RolleriÃ±o · Post by **RolleriÃ±o** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:22 am

Nazgit wrote:
grotuk wrote:
Teluriel wrote:How about this:

first day: every player from each country can participate...
Second day: the four best players from each country go through to "the world cup" and the rest continues with the other tournament.

No...favourites
No problem with the amount of coaches for each country (i suppose each country can at least produce 4 coaches).
Everybody is motivated to play and continue to play.
I'll go with 6 best players of each country but yep...that one its good. Also...the 6 best with different races...so a WE is first and fourth...the fourth is not part of the team and instead the seventh is in.

If we can achieve the nobody-plays-a-player-for-the-same-country thing the first day we can considere the day one results for both tourneys.

So, first day...meeting, painting contests and so...second day..3 or 4 games qualifier. Third day individual and team games 5th to 7th, and the fourth day 8th to 9th or to 10th....

I really like this idea.
Sounds good - far less cliquey than the Eurobowl system. If you want to attract as many people as possible, you need to give them as many reasons to attend as possible. The main reason to go to the World Cup seems to be to meet people you would otherwise never get the chance to meet. Playing in the billy no-mates side tourney whilst the "cool kids" play in the real deal seems less attractive. Especially if they are in a separate room.

The system above is fair and gives everyone who enters some chance to take part fully. Essentially you are holding the qualifiers at the tournament itself. I understand the team selection process for the Eurobowl is based on commitment, and that is cool. But the World Cup is a totally different event, is it not?

Yes!!!

Let the World Cup be Open!!!

Open = more coaches, more fun, more games, less stress on the team captain for his choises and between coaches of the same country... yust a little more work for organization...

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:33 am

Bit short notice to get over there seeing as they play the opener in a few hours.

Magic Dave · Post by **Magic Dave** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:30 pm

yes!

an open world cup.

thinking about dropping the GW tourney over this one.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:30 pm

Grumbledook wrote:Cool system let me phone sven, maybe I can take part vs paraguay.

The system above is designed to introduce a fair and open selection process. Football has its own selection process ... i.e. domestic football leagues.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:58 pm

So was our Eurobowl squad, whoever was able to go was selected ;]

To be honest whatever is decided I don't really mind

Northernknight · Post by **Northernknight** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:12 am

What about hiring conference rooms at some famous stadium for the venue. Old Trafford, Anfield. Twickenham, Lords etc...

Although it would be expensive, how amazing would it be to look out the window during games and see the pitch of the new Wembley stadium!