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A word of warning

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 7:09 pm
by Darkson
Darkson wrote:Subject: Star Players at BB tourney

Hi,
I have a converted kaven team I'm bring to BB and have a question about Star Player models. I might want to take the Skaven SP, Skuttlespike. Do I have to use the official model, or will a conversion (as long as it's recognizable) be permitted.
Thanks,
MO Troll Che wrote:Hi Simon
You will need to use the official model for a Star Player.
I hope that helps.
Cheers,
Che
But I'd also been told a conversion was fine as long as it was obvious who it was, so it might be advisable to take the "official" SP model, as well as any conversions.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 7:14 pm
by Grumbledook
Would you not be better off sending an email directly to fanatic rather than relying on the commonly wrong mail order trolls?

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 7:22 pm
by GalakStarscraper
Grumbledook wrote:Would you not be better off sending an email directly to fanatic rather than relying on the commonly wrong mail order trolls?

I would heartly agree that Grumble is right on this one.

I think the troll is dead wrong. If it is clear that the conversion for the star is easily identifable in your team, then I see no reason for it not being allowed.

Now if you have a human team and you gave a stardard blitzer a green emblem on his shirt and called him Griff ... ya that I'd have a problem with.

Galak

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 7:30 pm
by Deathwing
Depends whether 'Che' is Che Webster, who happens to be UK Clubs and Tournaments Manager, and pretty much i/c of the BB.
Darkson?

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 7:36 pm
by Deathwing
It should also be said that it's better to have it black and white than any gray areas, particularly in a tourney of this scale. What constitutes 'easily recognisable'? Who makes the decision? Surely you'd have to rule on every one. Different of course in a tourney of 16 or 20 players, but 200?
I have no problem if the ruling is 'the model on the card'/official figure.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 8:11 pm
by Darkson
Ok, I sent the original email over 2 weeks ago, so I can't be 100% who I sent it to, but I'm pretty sure it was either Fanatic or the Spec GT address in the tournament pack.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 9:14 pm
by Darkson
Oops, just checked the original email again. Yes, it's from Che Webster, so time to get those original SP out.

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 3:16 pm
by Al the Rat
Q: Do I have to use official models of the Star Players or can I use my own conversions?

A: Feel free to use your own conversions but you must tell your opponent who your converted models are meant to be before the games starts.
From the official questions and answers on Bloodbowl.com

A question I have though: "is a non-converted miniature from a different citadel mini range" acceptable so long as my opponent knows who he is, and it is clearly distinguishable from the other models on the team?

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 4:30 pm
by GalakStarscraper
Al the Rat wrote:
Q: Do I have to use official models of the Star Players or can I use my own conversions?

A: Feel free to use your own conversions but you must tell your opponent who your converted models are meant to be before the games starts.
From the official questions and answers on Bloodbowl.com

A question I have though: "is a non-converted miniature from a different citadel mini range" acceptable so long as my opponent knows who he is, and it is clearly distinguishable from the other models on the team?
Two things:
1) This clearly answers Darkson's question and it contradicts Che ... big surprise there ... (sorry it doesn't surprise me that Che and Andy said 2 different things)

2) Any Citadel mini that is clearly distinguishable from the other models will work based on Andy's Q&A for the tournament.

Galak

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 4:46 pm
by Darkson
Maybe I ought to send Che the Official BB Q&A :lol:

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 4:48 pm
by Deathwing
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm wondering why Darkson didn't read the FAQ in the first place...... :D
Now look at the confusion you've caused.... :roll:

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 5:18 pm
by Darkson
I originally sent the email on the 11th of January, so only a month to reply, not bad customer service :roll:

Not sure when the FAQ was available, but I downloaded it on the 22nd.

GW took so long to reply I'd forgotten about the FAQ when I received the reply, and posted it here before I'd checked that :oops: .

Sorry everyone (especially anyone who hurriedly started painting an official SP).

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 8:25 pm
by Al the Rat
I'm using a non-official SP model for the simple reason that they aren't available in the stores, and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay mail order rates for 1 model when I can get a perfectly good alternative from the high street. But just to make it a conversion and so officially legal by the FAQ I'm going to graft a ball onto it to make it look very blood bowl. :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 8:10 am
by Norse
er....

I'm taking 11 conversions with me.. including the star player...

if they ain't allowed then I'll be very :pissed: after a month of non-stop painting...

2.5 down... 8.5 to go!! :zzz:

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 9:32 am
by Ancalagon
Norse: 11 conversions????? :o and... which race have you chosen? :P

The only problem with my team is the probability of using silibili as my team's captain, but I'll ensure to my op. he's not the star.