Re: Both Down Newest info!
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:47 pm
Discuss Fantasy football-style board games - GW's Blood Bowl, Impact!'s Elfball, Privateer Press' Grind, Heresy's Deathball, etc. THIS IS NOT AN NFL FANTASY FOOTBALL SITE!
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Mom? Dad? Don't swing away! COME BACK! LOVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Jonny_P wrote:
No it was not you, even though you smashed me good. I am not a fan of losing any game, but I still enjoyed playing you so we are cool than cool... yep... ICE COLD.SunDevil wrote:Scott! Thanks for the shout out for our 3DB Highlander League semi-final tilt on FUMBBL! I'm glad I was not the 'negative experience' you discussd having on that site recently. Or was I...?
Sounds fun, but yes there are always some turds in the punch bowl, so to speak. I see a player that develops randomly different, while one guy could become the next Wes Welker or Tom Brady of the bunch, you still have your players that become Albert Haynesworth and Tony Mandarich. They suck up team value and seem like a waste until they finally get cut.SunDevil wrote:Our two local leagues are 100% 'pick your skills' but we recently had a third league that was 'first skill random'. I played in it for three seasons. Like you and Kilowog discussed, the main problem with random skills is that is flat out RUINS some players. I played Nurgle one season, my lone Pestigor skills up in Game 1 - POW! - Extra Long Legs. Blech. Set the team back horribly.
And that was only making the first skill random. But some first random skills are so bad, it cannot be fixed. I'm glad I have that experience but I will never go back.
I can see your point, BUT I think there is some skills that always seem smarter to take if you solely want to min/max a team. I know you can develop and create a passing dwarf team if you want.SunDevil wrote:You guys talked about pick-your-skill being boring because there are some commonly accepted "best" builds but I don't think it is quite that black and white. Lots of people like Dodge on Norse Zerkers double rolls but what about Diving Tackle to go with their Jump Up? How about a Chaos Pact team that features Dump Off since all Linemen canget it normally? Having a "best" build (and I use that term VERY loosely) just means you have something to play against when you pick - do you go by the book or try to find something different. Random skills doesn't give you that chance to explore, it forces it on you at the expence of lots of ruined players.
Pick 6 is way better. And really we could have said 6 skills out of all categories you qualify for, but that didn't seem as fun. The game is chaotic and sound remain that way!!!!SunDevil wrote:I do think the 'Pick 6' is a better compromise and we use that as well, sort of, for deciding MVP, though it's 'Pick 3'. This is already a chaotic game, there needs to be SOME order to balance it.
I truly have no idea if we are good or decent BB players, I know we both have had decent success in our small pond which is our "Home Leagues" and moderate success at the few tournaments we have played in. The core point of success is the FUN we have.SunDevil wrote:Kilowog, I was glad to hear you connect your Norse success with the random skill environment in which the team plays. That absolutely favors teams that start with good foundation skills and you guys, to your credit, did mention this. I do not mean to discount your skill as a coach but we ALL need to remember that connection. I coached CONTROL Nurgle into a Blood Bowl locally but trying it on FUMBBL Blackbox for example will get your players killed. However, I enjoyed your breakdown of the benefits of one die blocks with your Norse vs letting the opponent block you with two dice. I like Fend on the Linemen but only because they do not get ST access on normal rolls.
Thank you so much for all the feedback and opinions, we enjoy hearing from you. You want to sit across and play us so you can destroy us and brag.... and that's okay... because the Ginger Badger don't care.SunDevil wrote:Great ep, guys, and I hope to sit across from you at Chaos Cup this year!
Not confident enough in my BB skills to put the show in the line. That why we cover fluff.Kilowog2814 wrote:It's gonna be a Both Down Show Down!
Winner takes the other's podcast!
Then I'm going to lose...
BWAHAHAHAHA
You run the tournament like normal, to big of an event to switch stuff, I would mean that even if it put me and Steve randomly together in the 1st round. Besides I have a feeling the computer program will provide some great match ups this year.Jonny_P wrote: Ooooh, another Podcast Showdown...
I might have to randomly make this happen!
I'm up for it! I'll check with my better ginger half.Jonny_P wrote:Zlurpcast would love to do a group-skype (hot) recording with both podcasts to talk about the challenge results the following month.
All gingers are better. And he will betray you and your Team at Chaos Cup.SunDevil wrote:Jonny_P wrote: my better ginger half.