Should Brettonians be in Bloodbowl?

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:42 pm

Using the team here: viewtopic.php?t=20797&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 as a basis

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:06 pm

No, just use the Human roster.

Mordredd · Post by **Mordredd** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:45 pm

Yes, but no bloody peasants or squires thank you.

War-Child · Post by **War-Child** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:34 am

As much as I like the GW fluff about Brets and painting all those knights on horseback for WHFB, I really can't stand the team in a BB setting. There is just something about the team as it stands that makes it feel like a square peg trying to fit into a round hole.

I voted "Hell No!" cause 1 standard and 2 "variant" teams are more than enough humans in my book. Frankly, I'd just use the standard human team stats and just customize a team out of whatever suits your fancy.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:20 pm

Mordredd wrote:Yes, but no bloody peasants or squires thank you.

War-Child wrote:As much as I like the GW fluff about Brets and painting all those knights on horseback for WHFB, I really can't stand the team in a BB setting. There is just something about the team as it stands that makes it feel like a square peg trying to fit into a round hole.

Exactly. If you had to have a Brettonian team, then there are less hamfisted ways to do it. Peasants and squires is just so boring and clumsy and unimaginative. Have player roles influenced by the structure of Brettonian society, by all means. Poorly equipped linemen and flashy, arrogant blitzers. Whatever. But none of these copy + paste WFB rosters work for me.

fen · Post by **fen** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:28 pm

Be fair, plasmoid's listing doesn't have any peasants. Just terrible linemen.

Post by **voyagers_uk** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:21 pm

and thus the vocal majority state their claims to ruin the game for all who love Bretonians

why don't we run polls on "should you flock your bases?" for example and everyone who has no modelling flair can stop playing and go sit in a cupboard...

Plasmoid wants to include Bretonians in some form, but yopu all sit their and shout him down for being too silly not to convert a human team and use those rules whilst deluding himself with fluff...

jeez, this game means a lot to us, but it is still a game and optional rules have a place, why not optional teams?

you like knights - you must be wierd.....

if you hadn't guessed I am bothered by the lack of patience shown here

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:04 am

This isn't just about Martin's team. There is a very similar quasi-official team being playtested in the MBBL, and Galak has said JJ has shown some interest in making them official in 2008. When he does, it would be nice for the overwhelming public antipathy to be noted.

And ignored, obviously, just like it was with Khemri and Pro Elves and Ogres and ...

Mephisto · Post by **Mephisto** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:20 am

I would like to see a Brettonian Team in BB. If you don't like them, you don't have to play with them, but other perhaps will.

Actually I don't like the current rules for them. I think we have to work more on them, but as said: Brettonian YES!

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:50 am

Nice figs Mephisto!

Mephisto wrote:I would like to see a Brettonian Team in BB. If you don't like them, you don't have to play with them, but other perhaps will.

Can I have my Chaos Humans then? A far more popular choice. Also, can I have my Supermen team? They all have stats 8559 and cost 20K. If you don't like them, you don't have to play with them. But perhaps I will.

Mephisto · Post by **Mephisto** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:14 am

Joemanji wrote:Nice figs Mephisto!

Mephisto wrote:I would like to see a Brettonian Team in BB. If you don't like them, you don't have to play with them, but other perhaps will.
Can I have my Chaos Humans then? A far more popular choice. Also, can I have my Supermen team? They all have stats 8559 and cost 20K. If you don't like them, you don't have to play with them. But perhaps I will.

I think the Chaos Pact team would fit well with your idea of Chaos Humans...

The difference between your Supermen team and Bretonia is that the latter one belongs to the Warhammer World, where BB is inspired (even if we don't like that idea).

And Bretonia is a team, as Slann, and Chaos Pact that is being worked at, like in its moment, the Khemri, Vampire and Khemri team.

P.D.: The figs are not mine, they belong to Pakulkan, who is one of the most succesful converters, that if seen.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:18 am

Joemanji wrote:Also, can I have my Supermen team? They all have stats 8559 and cost 20K. If you don't like them, you don't have to play with them. But perhaps I will.

Wow! No Block? Did the 30k pricetag put you off?

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:26 am

voyagers_uk wrote:and thus the vocal majority state their claims to ruin the game for all who love Bretonians

why don't we run polls on "should you flock your bases?" for example and everyone who has no modelling flair can stop playing and go sit in a cupboard...

Plasmoid wants to include Bretonians in some form, but yopu all sit their and shout him down for being too silly not to convert a human team and use those rules whilst deluding himself with fluff...

jeez, this game means a lot to us, but it is still a game and optional rules have a place, why not optional teams?

you like knights - you must be wierd.....

if you hadn't guessed I am bothered by the lack of patience shown here

It's got nothing to do with the lack of patience at all.
I couldn't remember actually seeing a poll on wheter Brets should be in BB or not (not saying there wasn't one, just couldn't remember one), and I thought it would be interesting to see what sort of response they'd get. Plasmoid already knows what my feeling was on Bret teams, which is why I specifically didn't mention it in the other post, limiting my input to voting and pointing out what I thought was a missing option.

However, not having a simple "should we have them" poll was, imo, something that was missing. It is in no way aimed at a slight to Plasmoid, and I'd hope he'd know that, it's just a general poll to try to guage some sort of general feeling.

At the moment, the (admittedly tiny) participation points to a two thirds majority against having Brets in BB, which imo is more telling than a poll on what the statline of squires should be.

Of course, as Nazgit...oops, Joemanji said, even if we had a poll of every single member of TBB, NAF and any other BB forum you could think of, and got a 100% against vote, the fact JJ likes the idea means it's a given.

Mephisto · Post by **Mephisto** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:38 am

Darkson wrote:Of course, as Nazgit...oops, Joemanji said, even if we had a poll of every single member of TBB, NAF and any other BB forum you could think of, and got a 100% against vote, the fact JJ likes the idea means it's a given.

That's true... JJ's word is law...

The thing is how to influence JJ's decisions

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:41 am

That's easy ... voodoo.

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