Naming the common defensive setups

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Ikterus wrote:And also, all of the above can be placed with the three LOS-players with spaces in between.

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So maybe we need a name for those often used LOS placements?
what about referring to the line seperatetly form the rest of the formation. e.g. spread line, tight line so could get ziggurat tight line as the formation in the original post, or ziggurat spread line if the los fodder is spread out instead.

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Loose Fence...and....Tight Fence

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Done those codes as 3d graphics.


Deep Ziggurat
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ST3 Ziggurat
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Elf vs ST3
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Double Banana
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I am very fond of those 3D images, Pug (even if the "Volcano" looks even more like a spider than before!)

I'm going to have to try a double banana in my next game, purely because of the name ...

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You collect the codes for setups and tactics and I'll convert them into 3d representations!

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Luvvit, Pug!

I like the idea of identifying squares on the line in terms of distance from the middle square, read left to right.

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So a "bunched line" centered on the pitch is a "101" while a spread line is a "202" and a bunched 5-man stack is a 21012.

We could expand that to flankers and wings, so if the flanker is forward, it's a "56" and if the wing is forward it's a "65".

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"56" WZ defense, because the player at 5 (F) is upfield of the player at 6 (W).
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Not sure about that one. But I like it on the LOS....

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Not really a "T" persay, but I use it against teams that don't have any guard and I'm not sure which side they will go down. The wings can not get effectively blitzed, and your players in the deep middle should be able to get where they are needed in one turn.

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Just watch out for Leap.

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Smack either of the inside wingers with a blitz and you've got a hole.


BTW...will do the 3d for Power T once I get back from the club meeting about the rocket-bowl...laters!

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"The Flak" 
This one is very situational, I use it for setting up when there is only one turn left against a team that can score a 1TTD by throw team mate. It is not fool proof but at the very least they will have to make dodges; and should the scatter go towards my end zone, they will land in one or two tackle zones (or on a player).

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Edit: oups, a erased my earlier post when hopping back to retrieve the code for this set up... Well here's what i wanted to say...

Pug. Concerning the Double Banana (love the name BTW) you missed a little on the 3D. Suicidal as it might be I position my flankers one square from the sidelines. The point of this setup is to paint the pitch with TZs making it harder for fast agility teams (that lack frenzy) to rush up for the 2 turn hand off-pass TD. Works well against the infamous Slann Two Turner too.

Love the 3D BTW. Keep it up! (is it sketch-up you're using?)

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Against slower-teams, i prefer the one Pug had, with open sideline squares.

Ooh... Ikterus's version: the Banana. Pug's version: the Open Banana.

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The Pincer

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I use this when playing as Skaven to protect gutterrunners ( they're the players on the 4th row) and free up lanes of attack for immediate counterattacks.

I call it the pincer because the cluster of 3 players on either flank is composed of playmakers (atleast one blitzer and gutter runner) and the play usually develops such that both clusters either rush players into the offence's backfield or converge to flank attack a cage at midfield.

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Warpstone wrote:The Who's Your Daddy?

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In the old Triple-Pow, this is referred to as the "stack" (appropriate, given that it's a maximum-stacked line) and is a great way to get your players hurt, except in a game you can't lose against a team that's both slow and weak (like vs. Halflings when you've killed off the trees or Dwarfs after you've dealt them 7 casualties).

Your "pincer" is an arrowhead with inverted wings. I like "pincer" as a description, but frankly a lot of defenses provide that characteristic. Maybe that should be the name for the inverted wings, making the "arrowhead" with the pincer-wings the "crossbow." like?

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What is Nuffle's view? Through a window, two-by-three. He peers through snake eyes.
What is Nuffle's lawn? Inches, squares, and tackle zones: Reddened blades of grass.
What is Nuffle's tree? Risk its trunk, space the branches. Touchdowns are its fruit.
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