New Handicap Table ... right idea?

Teabag · Post by **Teabag** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:04 pm

It's an improvement to be sure, but a soiled piece of toilet tissue would be an improvement over the LRB handicap table, so that's not saying very much.

If we're judging this new version on it's own merits, then it is most definitely not the right idea. We need a souped-up handicap table and preferably one that is points-based (more accurately than this messy version) and that allows coaches to pick and choose the handicaps.

Terri

Sticky Wicket · Post by **Sticky Wicket** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:08 pm

Teabag wrote:It's an improvement to be sure, but a soiled piece of toilet tissue would be an improvement over the LRB handicap table, so that's not saying very much.

If we're judging this new version on it's own merits, then it is most definitely not the right idea. We need a souped-up handicap table and preferably one that is points-based (more accurately than this messy version) and that allows coaches to pick and choose the handicaps.

Terri

Well, I wouldn't put it quite a strongly as that but your basically right.

Sorry everyone but I can not stand this new table. LRB or something else please!

Breadwinner · Post by **Breadwinner** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:49 pm

This handicap table stinks! It's unfair, badly unbalanced, and needs to be scrapped!

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:02 pm

ok your opinions are all well and good but do you care to go on and explain why its bad?

or are we to keep guessing?

plasmoid · Post by **plasmoid** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:11 pm

Hi all,
while I disagree on a few results, this is basically the right idea.
With this system you don't get handicaps that are way too big or way too weak.

Also, a purchase system will never be fair. It will just be hell to design. Different results will be worth different things for different teams, so I'd rather have the randomness of this table.

Go Galak

Martin

Havoc · Post by **Havoc** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:19 pm

I havent read all the posts in this tread but here is my comments.

In the original 3:d ed. handicap table you advanced more quickly when you played againts a better team. I liked that. New teams had a hard time in the beginning but could close the gap quite quick. Why not combine the table (modified) with giving the underdog extra SPP and money? I suppose the BBRC has something against this. Could someone explain?

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:37 pm

Havoc wrote:I suppose the BBRC has something against this. Could someone explain?

Current belief is that your team should improve from the pitch not artifically through challenges to higher TR teams.

The optimum result is for an environment where the better team plays on a more level field not one that accelerates the weaker team.

Galak

Havoc · Post by **Havoc** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:39 pm

I understand. Sounds like good reasons, but I still miss the 3:d ed. table.

Pardus · Post by **Pardus** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:53 pm

"in the bag" really needs something in it for cases where there are less than 11 players

what about "may only field linemen" (yes i know some people are idiots and don't understand how the 0-12 position is linemen no matter what they are called)

duff · Post by **duff** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:53 am

We've been using it for a while, as a general rule the higher rated team wins still. I think it could be a little stronger and still have the higher rated team have the edge.

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:45 pm

Pardus wrote:"in the bag" really needs something in it for cases where there are less than 11 players

what about "may only field linemen" (yes i know some people are idiots and don't understand how the 0-12 position is linemen no matter what they are called)

A bit too good, IMO - especially against any of the Undead or the Lizardmen.

I do think it is vital to be able to pick the 5th handicap. I've seen teams be very concerned about having niggles on their roster over TR 200 becasue they knew that the players could be taken out by a targeted virus.

DarkHorse · Post by **DarkHorse** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:51 pm

Here's another in my emerging tradition of probably stupid ideas:

DarkHorse's Patented Handicap System of Dubious Value
1. Take the difference between TRs, and divide by two
2. Multiply that by 1,000 (gold)
3. The result is what the lower rated team can spend to freeboot a player, buy an apothecary or coaches or cheerleaders or whatever, but just for the duration of that game.

So, a TR 100 team playing a TR 200 team gets 50,000 gold to spend for the game. You would have to have a difference of 20TR to get enough to buy something. (10,000 g)

If that is not enough, or too much, then you can always change what you divide the TR difference by.

It's simple, at least.

reservoirelves · Post by **reservoirelves** » Wed May 05, 2004 7:26 am

What do the playtesters have to say about this? I've proposed this to my league and some data would really help us make a decision.

TheDudester · Post by **TheDudester** » Wed May 05, 2004 12:42 pm

Pardus wrote:"in the bag" really needs something in it for cases where there are less than 11 players

what about "may only field linemen" (yes i know some people are idiots and don't understand how the 0-12 position is linemen no matter what they are called)

Why not let the opponent choose the weakest 11?

Circular_Logic · Post by **Circular_Logic** » Wed May 05, 2004 3:59 pm

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