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Toy Soldier July 2011 - Jimjimany's Khemri Win!
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:49 am
by Leipziger
Darren from the Northwest Gaming Centre informed me on Saturday that this year, the Toy Soldier event is going to be held in Stockport over the weekend of 23/24 July 2011.
The price will be
£20 and tickets will be available through the centre's website. I'll post a link here when the tickets become available.
I'm going to be running the weekend for them and they've said I can choose what kind of ruleset I'd like. Before trying to reinvent the wheel, I wondered what people felt about last year's ruleset that Brendan and Geoff put together. If they worked well then we can use those.
Unlike previous years, there is quite a lot of space for Blood Bowl this time.We may well have the same room that the Waterbowl used this year.
If you are interested/have some input re:rulespack, please post below.
Interested
0. Leipziger
Paid Roster submitted - to play if numbers are odd
1. Boon
Paid Roster submitted
2. Fireolli
Paid Roster submitted
3. Sizzler
Paid Roster submitted
4. Mamapepe
Paid Roster submitted
5. Zedsdead
Paid Roster submitted
6. Pressie
Paid Roster submitted
7. Riffmeistergamer
Paid Roster submitted
8. DaHontaz
Paid Roster submitted
9. Joemanji
Paid
10. Pippy
Paid Roster submitted
11. Geggster
Paid
12. Cracol
Paid Roster submitted
13. Pazzer
Paid
14. Purplegoo
Paid Roster submitted
15. Battlepuppy
Paid Roster submitted
16. Jimjimjimany
Paid Roster submitted
Tickets now available! Go to:
http://www.maraudergames.co.uk/
Click on the tournament link in the left hand column, then select toy soldier, then bloodbowl.
Apparently, to start with, there is a 20 people per system limit
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:24 pm
by stanrichardson
Its my birthday weekend, so unless any stupid surprise parties are planned i am in
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:54 pm
by fire olli
interested.
I like the old troll bowl rules set. random skills after each round.
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:50 pm
by Purplegoo
Perhaps!
Any chance of it being 6 games this year, or are we held to 5 by other stuff again?
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:52 pm
by Joemanji
Leipziger wrote:I'm going to be running the weekend for them and they've said I can choose what kind of ruleset I'd like. Before trying to reinvent the wheel, I wondered what people felt about last year's ruleset that Brendan and Geoff put together. If they worked well then we can use those.
Remind me what we used last year? IIRC it was Waterbowl but teams got 1 or 2 vetos depending on their tier? In that case Vamps and Underworld should definitely be in the 1 veto group. Also, Wizards are lame, none of them please!
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:36 pm
by Leipziger
@Joe - Trying to find out the rules atm. Iirc it was tv115?
@Purplegoo - 6 games all the way
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:29 pm
by Joemanji
I still have the PDF actually:
TV115, Waterbowl Skill packages with:
Veto:
To give some of the weaker teams a leg up, it is possible to Veto skills. All teams are organised into Tiers
(see below). If you play against a team which is one Tier higher than you, then you may select a skill or stat
increase and veto it - the skill/increase cannot be used for that match. Only skills added during the course of
the tournament can be vetoed; skills a player starts with cannot be vetoed. If you play against a team which
is two Tiers higher than you then you may select two skills or stat increases and veto both!!
Note that any vetoed skill or increase will return to your roster at the end of the game.
Tiers:
Tier One:
Undead, Wood Elves, Amazons, Dwarves, Lizardmen, Chaos Dwarfs, Dark Elves, Norse, Skaven, Orc,
Human, High Elf, Necromantic
Tier Two:
Elves, Chaos Pact, Slann, Chaos, Nurgle’s Rotters, Khemri
Tier Three:
Underworld, Vampire, Halfling, Goblin, Ogre
and...
Each team will score a base number of points, which is then modified by the outcome of the game:
• Win: 28TP's.
• Draw: 16TP's.
• Loss: 4TP's.
This score will be adjusted as follows:
• Win by 2 TD's difference = +1TP.
• Win by 3 TD's difference or more = +2TP's (not cumulative with win by 2 TD's).
• Lose by 2 TD's difference = -1TP.
• Lose by 3 TD's difference or more = -2TP's (not cumulative with win by 2 TD's)
• Cause more casualties than opponent = +1TP per CAS (up to a maximum of +2)
• Cause less casualties than opponent = -1TP per CAS (up to a maximum of -2)
(NB only casualties that would generate SPPs count. Failed GFI’s, failed dodge attempts, fouls, off-pitch
casualties, etc do not count).
E.g. The Elfhelm Eagles beat the Dwarf Giants 3-1, but lose 3 elves and do not injure any of the dwarves.
The end score is 27-5 to the Eagles (29-3 for the score, -2 / +2 for the casualties).
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:34 pm
by Joemanji
IMO Humans, High Elves, Necros, Vamps & Underworld should all move into the middle tier.
Also, it would great to move away from bonus point bingo and towards points for results alone with draws within Swiss made at random rather than by net TDs etc. More tourneys are going this way and I think it is the fairer system. I can blab on about at length, but you might have seen a discussion elsewhere.
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:03 pm
by Jimjimjimany
I think the complicated points scoring was because it’s a multi-system event with an overall winner at the end, and the other systems had a “degree of victory” system so we needed to have one as well to determine the overall winner.
I’m not a fan of bonus points myself but I don’t think strait up W/D/L can work at toy soldier.
There’s also no need to ban wizards, just cage better
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:01 pm
by fire olli
Having run the BB at this event before you are very unlikely to get 6 games. As Jim said its a multi system event and they like it to run so someone can win overall.
I am also not a fan of the rules that were played last year, i would like to see the rules i used at troll bowl, they made the game/skills a little more random. If you are interested in those rules Alex i am sure i could dig them out.
Where in stockport are they thinking of playing?
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:19 pm
by Leipziger
Northwest Gaming Centre, Olli. Am speaking to Darren this week. Will see if we can get 6 games in. If time is an issue on the Sunday, would people consider 4 on Saturday and 2 on Sunday?
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:24 pm
by mamapepe
Interested. Rule set last year worked.
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:19 pm
by Leipziger
Ok, have spoken to Darren and the finish time on the Sunday still means only 2 games then. So, we can either:
- Leave it at 5 games
- Play 4 games on the Saturday
- Play a game Friday night, 3 on Saturday and 2 on the Sunday (I appreciate that this would be the most awkward option. I just want to guage opinion).
What do you think?
Oh, and the ticket link should be up and running by this weekend apparently.
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:59 pm
by pazzer
interested, 4 games on sat sounds good.
Re: Toy Soldier - Stockport 23/24 July 2011
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:41 pm
by stick_with_poo_on_the_end
4 on Saturday with table service please!