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Does anyone use the wizard type things?

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 3:41 pm
by Freshmetal
Looking through all the rulebooks and such for my new Dwarf and High Elf teams, I came across the Dwarf Alchemists and was wondering if anyone ever uses things such as this? I know some people use the Halfling Master Chefs, but not the others... Any comments/opinions?

Plus, would'nt these be better if they were able to be bought, many for a slightly higher cost rather than being a one match luxury like wizards?

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 4:23 pm
by Zombie
They used to be permanent and cost 150k. It's much better the way it is now. And yes, people still hire them, for playoffs and such.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:47 pm
by Dark Lord (retired)
I don't know anyone dumb enough to use a Dwarf Alchemist.
The others I have seen here and there but not much.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:54 pm
by Zombie
If the team needs money, it pays to hire an alchemist (5k per game on average). Of course, if the dwarf team would rather have less money because they have nothing to spend it on, that's another matter.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:58 pm
by ljm
I hire the regular wizard quite often, if I have the money. It won me the last league - a fireball bust open a dwarven cage and abled me to score a winning TD.

ljm

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:00 pm
by Dark Lord (retired)
It's a gamble and not at all worth it in my opinion.
Why gamble your winning away when you can just save up for what you want? There isn't anything a dwarf team needs THAT badly. You can lose 20K and only gain 30K. Sounds like a bad desicion to me. As an experienced dwarf coach I can tell you that a dwarf team is more than capable of last a game or two to pick up any players that they need. Dwarfs just don't die that often, in fact, I don't think I've ever had a dwarf team start a game with less than 10 players.

What could be so important to risk losing 20K?

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:41 pm
by GalakStarscraper
The Alchemist will be gone soon and the Runesmith will replace it ... a chance I'm looking forward to.

Galak

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:52 pm
by Zombie
Dark Lord wrote:It's a gamble and not at all worth it in my opinion.
Why gamble your winning away when you can just save up for what you want? There isn't anything a dwarf team needs THAT badly. You can lose 20K and only gain 30K. Sounds like a bad desicion to me. As an experienced dwarf coach I can tell you that a dwarf team is more than capable of last a game or two to pick up any players that they need. Dwarfs just don't die that often, in fact, I don't think I've ever had a dwarf team start a game with less than 10 players.

What could be so important to risk losing 20K?
The gamble is not a bad thing. It would be if it were like at the casino, and on average you'd lose more than you'd win. However, in this case it's the opposite. If you don't hire the alchemist because you're scared of losing money, that's a bad reason. If you don't hire him because you're scared of winning money (because you really, really don't need anymore), now that's a good reason.

Of course, like Galak said, this will all be moot soon because dwarves will get a runesmith instead.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 8:39 pm
by Freshmetal
Any idea of the Runesmith's role/abilites?

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 9:33 pm
by Zombie
Go to blood-bowl.net, experimental teams section. It's all there.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 10:23 pm
by GalakStarscraper
Zombie wrote:Go to blood-bowl.net, experimental teams section. It's all there.
http://www.midgardbb.com/GWTeams/RevisedGWRosters.html

Galak

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 11:30 pm
by Zombie
Galak, you've gotta leave some work up to them, otherwise they get lazy and expect you to do all the work for them all the time! Some people need to learn to use the search function and to look around blood-bowl.net. If you keep doing it for them, they'll never learn.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:13 am
by GalakStarscraper
Zombie wrote:Galak, you've gotta leave some work up to them, otherwise they get lazy and expect you to do all the work for them all the time! Some people need to learn to use the search function and to look around blood-bowl.net. If you keep doing it for them, they'll never learn.
I was VERY tempted Zombie ... really I was ... I ended up having to look something up there anyway, so I posted the link since the page was up for another item.

I think I've posted the link to that page 50 times in the last 4 months ... so I'm pretty much to the point where I agree that folks need to start using the search function that I had added to the website. So I agree with you on this one, but it was easy so I threw it out.

Galak

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:30 am
by Snew
Damn that runesmith looks powerful. I don't use Wizards but that guy would have to be on the team. Fortunately he can only be freebooted now.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 4:51 am
by Dark Lord (retired)
Well, Zombie, when you run a successful dwarf team get back to me. :wink: