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1.2m skaven build

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:19 am
by Shteve0
Hey guys!

I've never played Skaven and in a week's time I'm due to take a whole team of them to a six game resurrection environment.

I have 1.2m to spend inc purchased skills (1 per player cap, normals only). In addition, one of the players who has received no purchased skills (in this case a Gutter Runner, based on modelling decisions) may take up to 70k in skill and stat ups (as the team hero), taking my total allowance to 1.27m.

So far I have:
- Gutter Runner (hero), 80k
- Thrower (leader), 90k
- Linerat (kick), 90k

Beyond that, please help! I have no idea what I'm doing! :S

Re: 1.2m skaven build

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:44 am
by Don__Vito
Lots of choices!

First is, have you a preference on whether the Rat Ogre is coming?

Sounds to me like the setup is basically a 1.1m tourney with five singles (hero excluded). If that is the (over-simplified) case, then I'd leave him at home myself.

Cheesey option is a one turning Gutter (+MA, Sprint, Sure Feet) as your hero.

Then five useful singles. Leader is a must. Kick is a luxury you probably don't need. Skilling both Blitzers is my choice, then fill up Gutters. If you insist on Kick give it to a Gutter, more survivability and you'd be setting him up off the line anyway.

I'd end up with something like:
2 Blitzers - Guard and MB
4 Gutters - Hero, Strip Ball, Block
Thrower - Leader
2RR, Apo, fill on Linemen.

Re: 1.2m skaven build

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:22 am
by babass
The heros could be a decicated ball carriere hunter: a gutter with wrestle/horns/stripball. it would be more used than a one-turner (if you really want an one-turn, please consider it with the skill side/step +MA/sidestep/surefeet).
or why not a killer: blitzer MB+Claw+PO :smoking:



Kick is a must have for skaven. but i prefer to put it on an not-skill gutter (because the life of a skaven lineman is short)

Re: 1.2m skaven build

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:44 am
by Shteve0
Cheers boys, interesting takes.

Must admit more in favour of the ball hunter than the 1TTD player, particular as the wrestle/dodge combo has more staying power.

As for why a GR, the truth is I've already converted and painted the team. The Hero's on the far right.

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Full Plog: http://nzbbn.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=292

So I guess I'm looking at something similar to the following:

1 Apoth - 50k
4 Gutter Runners (Hero, Block, Block, Kick) - Hero is Wrestle, Horns, Strip Ball - 380k
2 Blitzers (Guard, MB) - 220k
1 Thrower (Leader) - 70k
6 Linerat - 300k
3 Reroll - 180k

Alternatively, I could drop a Linerat and a reroll for 5 extra skills (5 wrestle linerats?) Is there value in that tradeoff?

Re: 1.2m skaven build

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:04 am
by babass
4 reroll inclusive the leader?
it's maybe too much. i would drop one for 3 wrestle on linemen :)

Re: 1.2m skaven build

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:38 am
by phil78
1 Thrower (Leader) - 70k
Should this not be 90k including Leader

2RR and Leader should be plenty, I think you'd get more use from the extra skills than the 4th RR.

Re: 1.2m skaven build

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:00 pm
by Aino
babass wrote:4 reroll inclusive the leader?
it's maybe too much. i would drop one for 3 wrestle on linemen :)
Fully agree with Babass here.
Wrestle will save your butt and you'll never need that many rerolls surely.

Re: 1.2m skaven build

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:01 pm
by Shteve0
Okay, sounds good (and yes, slight administrative error in the thrower cost back there, well spotted).

So now I'm looking at:

1 Apoth - 50k
4 Gutter Runners (Hero, Block, Block, Kick) - 380k
1 Thrower (Leader) - 90k
2 Blitzers (MB, Guard) - 220k
2 Linemen (both Wrestle) - 140k
4 Linemen - 200k
2 Reroll - 120k

Which brings me to exactly 1.2m. No tackle, and no Dirty Player... assume that's okay? Still thinking Horns, Wrestle, Strip Ball for the Gutter Runner Hero.

Cheers all :)

Re: 1.2m skaven build

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:47 pm
by JaM
Sounds like a good team to me. Lots of skills Skaven can use/need.

1.2m skaven build

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:59 am
by Shteve0
Cheers guys. Turned out to be a very bash environment, but pulled off a decent run.

Orcs (Welshy) win 2-1
C Dwarf (Smeborg) loss 1-2
C Dwarf (Dazedmw) draw 1-1
Undead (A Homes) draw 2-2
C Pact (ciderboy) win 2-1
Nurgle (taketheskull) win 4-0.

Strong finish, lots of fun. The hero was awesome... 8 TDs in 6 games, was able to sack the ball more often than I can remember!

Re: 1.2m skaven build

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:56 am
by JaM
Well done! :)

Re: 1.2m skaven build

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:54 pm
by Smeborg
ShteveO is being bashful. He came 4th in the tourney (in a field of 22), and might well have come 3rd if he hadn't called off his last game early (he lost 3rd place on tie-break, 1 more TD would have clinched it, I think).

Not a bashy environment for me, I faced 2 Skaven, 1 WE, Pact, Chaos, Dwarf.

All the best.