when to declare passing actions

Scott King · Post by **Scott King** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 5:38 am

OK,

when do people declare their pass and blitz actions? I've always played that you declare the blitz before the player moves, but you can wait to declare the pass until you're actually ready to do it, so you can wait until he's got the ball before declaring. I think that there's something in the rule book to this effect, but since it's buried under two tonnes of boxes (I'm moving) I can't look it up. Or am I just going mad in my old age?

nouge · Post by **nouge** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 7:09 am

You must declare which action a player is going to take
before carrying out the action. For example, you might
say, “This player is going to take a block action.”

That's a new addition for the 2k1 Living Rule Book, and it indicates pretty clearly that you've got to declare what kind of action each player is taking (move, block, blitz, pass, handoff, foul) before they do anything.

So you spend a lot of time saying 'uh, this is a move action...'

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 8:32 am

We play that move actions are presumed, so you only have to declare blitzes, handoffs, fouls and passes.

Also we tend to play that you can declare the action at any point during the player's action before you roll any dice. So if you were blitzing you'd have to declare the blitz before you made a dodge in the same action.

Ian

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 11:15 am

Actually no one I know of thinks you should have to declare move or block so we don't.

The declared actions are Blitz, Foul, Pass, Handoff .... if you play in a league with spellcasters then include Cast.

Galak

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 11:28 am

How can you not declare Block on the tabletop?

Our 'declaration' usually consists of pointing...
" 'e's 'itting 'im, 2 die.."

Relborn · Post by **Relborn** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 11:47 am

with the new bonehead rules, you really should declare your actions before moving the players (at least for the bonehead players).

Otherwise you would weaken this ability very much ...

Valen · Post by **Valen** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 12:14 pm

Therefore, if an ogre declares a blitz, but then rolls a one on his bonehead, does this waste your blitz for your turn?

martynq · Post by **martynq** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 12:16 pm

Valen wrote:Therefore, if an ogre declares a blitz, but then rolls a one on his bonehead, does this waste your blitz for your turn?

Yes.

Martyn

Valen · Post by **Valen** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 12:38 pm

Harsh!

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 12:51 pm

Harsh? I don't think so. Same applies to dodging with Stand Firm on a Blitz, you fail the dodge, no turnover but that's your Blitz gone.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 1:06 pm

Agreed not harsh at all .... I think of it more as BALANCED!

Galak

Valen · Post by **Valen** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 1:14 pm

Showing my inexperience here, but I was not aware that stand firm stops you failing a dodge roll. What is this rule?

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 1:23 pm

If a Stand Firm player fails a dodge roll he remains standing in the square he was dodging from. Check the Stand Firm description in the LRB.

Valen · Post by **Valen** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 1:26 pm

Cheers, keep the lessons coming, I am really enjoying this.

Relborn · Post by **Relborn** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 2:11 pm

Yes and for all this reasons I think it is NECESSARY to declare the action before activating the player.