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Question on Side Step skill...
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 11:04 am
by Nagash
The rule says:
A player with this skill is an expert at stepping neatly out of the way
of an attacker. To represent this ability, his coach may choose which
square the player is moved to when he is pushed back, rather than
the opposing coach. Furthermore, the coach may choose to move
the player to any empty adjacent square (from where the block
occured), not just the three squares shown on the Push Back
diagram. Note that the coach may choose which square the player
is moved to even if the player is knocked over after the push back.
Q: How do you interpret the "from where the block occured"? is it the blocking or the defending players square....
if attacker - wouldn´t that mean that a defending player could potentially side step the the "6 o´clock" square of his attacker?
Thx,
Nagash - keep rolling those triple skulls....

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 11:26 am
by longfang
The defending player can side step to any of their adjacent squares. They can not move into the attacking players square because the attacker follows up after the defender has moved, and it is therfore not an empty square.
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 12:10 pm
by High & Mighty
from where the block
occured), not just the three squares shown on the Push Back
diagram.
If they meant adjacent to the blocker's square, there wouldn't be that caveat about not just the three squares shown in the Push Back diagram.
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 3:16 pm
by Nagash
High & Mighty wrote:from where the block
occured), not just the three squares shown on the Push Back
diagram.
If they meant adjacent to the blocker's square, there wouldn't be that caveat about not just the three squares shown in the Push Back diagram.
yep - nicely pointed out - also it says:"Furthermore, the coach may choose to move the player to any empty
adjacent square...." Obviously that rules out side stepping your player directly behind the blocker....
thx guys!
Nagash
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 12:49 am
by sean newboy
If your opponent follows up, yes u can take his starting square, because it is adjacent (by definition of a block) to u at the start of the block. If he does not follow up best u can do is end up next to him again.
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 4:34 am
by High & Mighty
If your opponent follows up, yes u can take his starting square, because it is adjacent (by definition of a block) to u at the start of the block. If he does not follow up best u can do is end up next to him again.
Only problem is, you have to decide where to sidestep before the blocker decides whether to follow up, so during the moment you have to decide, the blocker's square isn't eligible.
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 10:10 am
by sean newboy
If thats so then it has been changed in that respect since 3rd edition.
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 11:37 am
by DoubleSkulls
Since you've always had a resolve push backs before follow ups you've never been able to move into the blocker's square.

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 5:19 pm
by TiMuN
Correct Ian .. that's the point .. you CAN'T side step into the bockers square .. that would be like blocking him again!!
regards
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 3:25 pm
by longfang
Did my earlier post not say all this. Hmmmm lets reiterate.........
longfang wrote:The defending player can side step to any of their adjacent squares. They can not move into the attacking players square because the attacker follows up after the defender has moved, and it is therfore not an empty square.
yep, thought so!.
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 4:07 pm
by Piepgrass
I just love Longhfangs "grumpy " way of repeating himself.

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 5:01 pm
by Ancalagon
On the spanish board we were talking about sidestep too and some questions had no clear answer:
What happens to a player being pushed by a sidestep player who has been blocked? Who chooses were has to go this third player? I used to think that after first player is pushed (doesn't matter if he has sidestep or not) the rest of players were pushed into the square chosen by the owner of the player.
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 5:11 pm
by longfang
So long as you stay within the rules for push backs, the attacking player can choose where they are pushed back too.
Is there some kind of spacial anomoly on Talk Bloodbowl at the moment, cos I keep getting these strange feelings of "deja vu"?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 11:46 am
by DoubleSkulls
Ancalagon wrote:What happens to a player being pushed by a sidestep player who has been blocked? Who chooses were has to go this third player? I used to think that after first player is pushed (doesn't matter if he has sidestep or not) the rest of players were pushed into the square chosen by the owner of the player.
A player with Side Step always chooses where to go if pushed back. IMO that this applies if the player is pushed back as a result of a push back on another player.
It also applies if there are no empty squares around the player - he still chooses which of 3 squares he goes back into. In such a circumstance he can't choose any square.
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 4:26 pm
by Ancalagon
So a player who is blocked cannot be pushed if there are no empty squares?? if think I'm getting mad...