To Galak: list of clarifications

Lucien Swift · Post by **Lucien Swift** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 2:44 pm

and think of the aftermath when that 7-minute gap in the conversation is found....

Moonsong · Post by **Moonsong** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 3:32 pm

I was thinking about something entirely anonimous, but I didn't consider the dimensions of such a file...well, an almost good idea...me goes finkin' sumfin' better....

Moonsong

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 9:21 pm

Galak, some of us appreciate the effort you've put in.

As for Zombie, if you don't like the rules or reviews, ignore them. Find some like minded players and form your own league. Who knows, in a few years time you might be proved right when the rest of the BB community dies under the weight of all the additional rules, or you might be proved wrong when a more streamlined and enjoyable game is played by the vast majority of BB players except you.

As for leaving out rules because YOU don't like them, well i don't like Chaos teams (I believe they should be split into Warriors/Marauders on one team and Beastmen on the other) but I'm not gonna flame people and start a campaign to have them removed on my say-so.

It's a bloody game, which I play cos I enjoy, and in our group if we don't like something we ignore it. Play for fun.

Sorry if it's sounds like I'm preaching. I get enough bitichin' at work, without havin it in my pastimes.

Anthony_TBBF · Post by **Anthony_TBBF** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 9:36 pm

Hey I added the Base Rings in there for you Lucien ... its in there ...

I want mandatory base flocking included too!

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 9:49 pm

Anthony_TBBF wrote:
Hey I added the Base Rings in there for you Lucien ... its in there ...
I want mandatory base flocking included too!

Guys at this rate I'm going to need a 2nd job to pay to have all my figs painted and flocked.

BTW, has anyone seen the new TBBF rules on painting ... ouch ... extra handicap roll for a team for the difference in painted figs / 5. So a painted team playing an unpainted teams gets 3 extra handicap rolls or the unpainted team gets 3 less. That will make you appreciate your brushes a little more, eh?

Galak

everyman · Post by **everyman** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 9:59 pm

Posting a log of the BBRC meetings is a <b>really</b> bad idea. In order for the BBRC to perform its duty effectively, it needs to operate to the outside world as a cohesive and decisive decision making body. No one outside the BBRC gains any benefit from knowing about the nitty-gritty nauseating details that went into the decisions they arrive at. I place my trust in the BBRC to make the right decisions on my behalf. IMO, they've done great so far, and until they stray from that precedent I will continue placing my faith in them to do the Right Thing.

P.S. Thank you Galak for taking the time on behalf of a whole lot of people to keep the BBRC topic list up to date. I appreciate your efforts immensely.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 10:55 pm

Galak: thanks, it looks better now.

Everyman: i personally don't have much faith in the BBRC, because of one member who has way too much power there (all the other ones are sheep) and who happens to always take the opposite stance of mine. I'm not allowed to name him here because of forum rules, but you get the general idea.

Anthony_TBBF · Post by **Anthony_TBBF** » Tue Oct 01, 2002 12:18 am

I have to tell you Zombie, you are so wrong about that. I have hung out with John and Chet on a few occaisions and I can tell you that the "others" are definitely not sheep. Not that I am privvy to any inside info but I know these two guys and to hear someone say that just makes me laugh.

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Tue Oct 01, 2002 12:45 am

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Tue Oct 01, 2002 1:30 am

Anthony: how do you know the one i'm refering to isn't one of those?

Mestari · Post by **Mestari** » Tue Oct 01, 2002 5:01 am

I think they do send out a log. It's called a "rules review".

With all the uninteresting parts (like discussions) already deleted, that's an ideal size, compact log about the happening: it includes all the important conclusions and decisions and therefore you don't have to constantly skip long pieces of text so often found in complete logs that would read something like:
member x: "Your rule suggestion sucks"
member y: "Oh yeah? Then maybe _you_ suck"
member x: 'hits member y'
member y: "Ouch - for this I'll vote against your favourite suggestion!" 'throws a brand new ogre figure at member x
member x: Ouch - you bastard"

Quit complaining and submit to the leadership and decisions of those in charge. Galaks list is an excellent way of expressing where we feel the rules should go. If they don't agree, that's it - they've got no obligation to give any [EDIT - completed my sentence:] reasons or voting results or anything to us.

BTW Galak: passing-catching sequence is not a clarification. It's really clear at the moment how it should be done according to the rules.
I'm requesting a change so that interception rolls are made after the roll for accuracy, for excellent reasons that I've already explained.

Another one to be added:
Consider officially departing the BB world from the Warhammer world - call it a parallel dimension. And make all the position names reflect the BB world.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Tue Oct 01, 2002 8:09 am

But Mestari ... I like my Wardanders, Troll Slayers, and Witch Elves ... .... do we really need to official kill them off name wise.

As for passing ... I consider it a clarification because actually I've seen some pretty nasty debate in a tabletop league on the whole base measurement issue. Nothing like using a 40mm base and saying this means you get to intercept more or catch passes easier.

As for the interception roll ... I can add it to the list, but I've had several BBRC members tell me it isn't moving any time soon. Both interceptions and safe throw are so rare that any move that makes them rarer is not the direction to head. Now I agree in some ways it doesn't make sense. But this is a game mechanic I understand why its there. Its a game mechanic pure and simple.

But my personal thoughts aside, I'll add it to the list.

Galak

Kri · Post by **Kri** » Tue Oct 01, 2002 10:38 am

Interceptions and Safe Throws RARE???

Every thrower worth his behind has Safe Throw in our league. Otherwise those Pass Block guys or those annoying 6´s will destroy your play completely.

Clarifications on who gets to intercept is appreciated. Since the passingtemplate is so big there can arise some pretty weird situations.

PS. Galak, you´re doing great.

christer · Post by **christer** » Tue Oct 01, 2002 11:17 am

Interceptions and Safe Throws RARE???

I totally agree.. In FUMBBL, I totally _love_ my safe throw passer... And we don't have a single pass-blocker in the league (due to the fact that the skill isn't implemented in SJ's client yet).

Personally, I would love to see the interception to be rolled after the pass roll. If you really want the interceptions to be more common, just make it a -1 instead...

-- Christer

Cervidal · Post by **Cervidal** » Tue Oct 01, 2002 12:15 pm

The easier you make it to intercept the ball, the less common interceptions will actually be. If you knew your opponent was going to pick off your pass one out of every... let's say four times, instead of the current usual 1 in 6, would you throw the ball much? I certainly wouldn't. Most coaches would do the same.

Pass Block, in my experience, isn't taken because of the death of the long pass. Why throw way downfield when it's easier to do some kind of quick pass to the flank and then handoff to someone already downfield? There are very few reasons to include the long pass in your offensive plans except in cases of desperation.