Are Bull Centaurs overpriced at 130k?

Artificial Penguin · Post by **Artificial Penguin** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 8:46 pm

Bull Centaur:
Cost 130k
Access to General, Str skills
6429 Thick Skull, Sprint, Sure Feet

Based on the cost system I've seen posted here before, it works out exactly to 130k:

+6 for ST 4
-2 for AG 2
+1 for AV 9
+2 per skill (x3)

160k, anything over 100 divide the extra by 2 = 130

HOWEVER, all three skills/racial abilities seem to be half-value skills (not very good). It's not like the BC comes with Block, Tackle, and Thick Skull (which would be great! a fast CD with +1 ST).

Ideally, I'd put it at 120k or so. Tell me what you think.

ZanzerTem · Post by **ZanzerTem** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 8:51 pm

Priced correctly, IMO.

There is more to price then just skills and stats. You also have to look at the niche the player fills while on the team. Considering the extreme benefit it gives the Chaos Dwarves, they are a bargain at that price.

Ghost of Pariah · Post by **Ghost of Pariah** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 8:52 pm

The fact that there are 2 BC's, Chaos Dwarfs have cheap rerolls, the BC's can use them and that the Chaos Dwarfs come with a good skill set is reason enough to keep them at 130K. Also the fact that they have MA 6 + ST 4! That's alot of movement for a ST 4 player. They make nasty blitzers. By their 2nd skill they are mean machines! 130K is fair.

Artificial Penguin · Post by **Artificial Penguin** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 8:59 pm

Bloodbasher Masher wrote:Priced correctly, IMO.

There is more to price then just skills and stats. You also have to look at the niche the player fills while on the team. Considering the extreme benefit it gives the Chaos Dwarves, they are a bargain at that price.

GREAT point!!! I forgot to mention this. If they were on another team, maybe they would be overpriced. Having good movement on a high strength player that can take rerolls on a Dwarf team means something more.

Thanks for the thoughtful response

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 9:03 pm

Priced correctly. Many people devalue Movement, but it is extremely important.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 10:18 pm

How about an option for "underpriced"?

Seriously, bull centaurs are about the most perfectly priced players in the game.

Milo · Post by **Milo** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 11:48 pm

Also, Sprint and Sure Feet is a tremendously useful combination, especially to start with. Plus, he doesn't normally have access to Agility skills.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 9:52 am

In my experience, sprint + sure feet is just slightly better than +1 MA. That's pretty pathetic considering you're spending 2 skills for that extra MA. Of course, i start most teams with 4-5 rerolls, so that may be why this combo isn't that useful to me (i often go for it without it and use team rerolls to back me up).

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:58 am

They were overpriced (imo) when they were big guys but are fine now.

zeroalpha · Post by **zeroalpha** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 12:06 pm

I think they are priced well. Starting with 3 skills is always a good thing and worth the price. Having MA 6 sprint and sure feet, by simply adding block you have an awsome blitzer. I think 130k is about right.

MistWraith · Post by **MistWraith** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 12:52 pm

For what they do for the team, they are priced right. On many other teams they would be to expensive.

Right now, I am happy to buy them at 130k. In fact, I wish my Dark Elves could take one.

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