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Chaos needs to be changed....
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 11:19 pm
by Raven_Talons
I think the team is balanced and everything. I just don't feel like it being a chaos team. It feels like a beastmen team with chaos warriors allies. I think three should be two(maybe three) new chaos teams. Beastmen, Chaos warriors, and maybe demonds. Like maruders could be on the chaos team and the mintour could only be on the beast men team. ANd so on what does everyone else think
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 11:24 pm
by Darkson
I agree with you, and some alternatives were printed in the Journal many moons ago, but the idea doesn't seem to be very popular here and it seems GW has no intention of changing it any time soon.
On a side note, some PBeM leagues have the various chaos teams you suggested , MBBL/MBBL2 for example. Might be worth checking out.
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 11:35 pm
by Zy-Nox
I tried some of those journal teams, and got quite fond of the beastman one, if I remeber correctly the Bestigors were very Nice indeed.
I wouldnt mind seeing split chaos teams, but aint really bothered if it doesnt happen.
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 11:38 pm
by Raven_Talons
how many people would liek to see an offical change to chaos though
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 11:39 pm
by Darkson
Stick a poll on your original post and find out.
I for one would vote fopr a split.
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 11:39 pm
by Zy-Nox
Raven_Talons wrote:how many people would liek to see an offical change to chaos though
Make a POLL
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 3:18 am
by Raven_Talons
Sorry Guys took me a littel to figrue out how to make a poll but here it is. PLease help the cause
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 3:21 am
by sean newboy
My choice is to split into 2 and have demons as an option.
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 3:39 am
by DaFrenchCoach
I voted for the 3 chaos teams, for a lot of reasons, but I would like to see it like an option, not like 3 "closed" roster teams, ie I'd like to see some options like 0-1 daemon OR 0-2 Chaos Servants (Nurgles Rotters, Bloodletters, ...), 0-2 Chaos Warriors OR 0-2 Bestigors, 0-12 Beastmen or 0-12 Marauders, which should allow you to keep the actual roster (you would just have to remove Chaos Servants with Chaos Warriors), or allow you to make original mixes 4 beastmen, 4 marauders, 2 Chaos Warriors, 2 Chaos Servants, 1 dameon, and so on.
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 9:46 am
by plasmoid
We've been doing the 3-way split for quite a while, and have gotten a lot of playtest on our 3 rosters. (We're not doing the CJ versions).
The 3 teams can be seen here: (though you'll have to skip over a rules section first):
http://home.worldonline.dk/nyskes/bbowl/Ctr.htm
Notice that beastmen/marauder teams are very similar to the old chaos team, ensuring that no fans of the chaos team will be robbed of their favourite team.
Martin
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 11:41 am
by Raven_Talons
thank you everyone for the imput so far but I would like more
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 12:41 pm
by Dave
Split em up master!!
Don't really mind if it's two or three.
WOuld prefer this for fluff and new mini's
I wouldn't be surprised if new teams do come, following WFB
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 3:15 pm
by martynq
The current team is fine - it's nicely balanced against the other standard races. It's ok to add more teams, but make sure you don't lose the standard one (4 CWs + 12 beastmen).
Cheers,
Martyn
Kaos
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 4:15 pm
by Gorblitz!!
Just for flava Ive always wanted two seperate teams. What Ive never wanted to see and all too often happens is people try to make teams different by giving out a bunch of skills and declaring them "different". I think thats stoopid. The "random" skills for Marauder linemen?!?! Dumb! Heaping DP on the Ungors?!?! Whatever......Let ME decide how I want my team to proceed by giving me mostly skilless players. Just change the stat line and availability of different players, I can play games and make them what I want
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 4:17 pm
by roysorlie
Oh I agree.
Something should be done with Chaos. But I don't like the poll options.
I have a chaos player in my league, and he's is a chaos fan all the way.
We have started some work diving up the chaos teams.
We have 3 elf teams, soon there will be 2 undead teams, there are several human teams.
We are thinking of splitting them into the different chaos aspects, Khorne, Nurgle, SLaneesh and Ttzcheench (or however the word is spelled)
Khorne teams would be something like this:
1 - 4 Khorne Chaos Warriors 6 4 3 9 Frenzy 120K
1 - 4 Beastmen 6 3 3 8 Horns 60K
1 - 12 Chaos Cultist 6 3 3 8 50K
RR 70K
Nurgle Teams
1 - 4 Nurgle Chaos Warriors 4 4 2 10 Foul Apperance 110K
1 - 4 Beastmen (etc)
And so on.
Big guys could be a demon, Flesh Hound, plague Bearer and so on.
We haven't worked through it yet, but a complete list will be suggested later.
Other ideas would be appreciated.