New Team Roster: something generally wrong

For Fantasy Football related chat that doesn't come under any of other forum categories.

Moderator: TFF Mods

Toby

New Team Roster: something generally wrong

Post by Toby »

Is team rating calculated BEFORE or AFTER a Match ?

Do Freebooters (Star Players, Wizards, Freebooter Players) apear on the Team Roster and in the Total Cost of Team and as a result, affect Team Rating ?

or do they NOT, then why the Wizard Entry on the Roster ?

Reason: ''
martynq
Super Star
Super Star
Posts: 1251
Joined: Thu May 02, 2002 11:21 am
Location: Cupar, Fife, Scotland

Re: New Team Roster: something generally wrong

Post by martynq »

Toby wrote:Is team rating calculated BEFORE or AFTER a Match?
Erm, I think I'm not understanding you here, but I'd say the answer is "Both." You calculate your team rating immediately after you've completed the match, but this is before the next match.
Toby wrote:Do Freebooters (Star Players, Wizards, Freebooter Players) affect apear on the Team Roster and in the Total Cost of Team and as a result, Team Rating?
It is the money that you had available before the match began that counts towards your team rating. The fact that you've used them for freebooting doesn't matter.
Toby wrote:or do the NOT, then why the Wizard Entry on the Roster.
Because the Roster that is currently used was originally drawn up for an older version of the game where you could permanently hire a wizard. This has been changed with the latest version but no new roster sheet has been produced yet.

Cheers,
Martyn

Reason: ''
User avatar
Zy-Nox
Ex-Mega Star, now just a Super Star
Ex-Mega Star, now just a Super Star
Posts: 1310
Joined: Sun May 19, 2002 2:18 pm
Location: Bringing Fouling To A New Level.

Post by Zy-Nox »

1.Team rating is calculated after matches.

2.Freebooters count toward rating, after all you did just hire them

3.Wizards are freebooted too, just change their costing on the roster to 50k-easy. 8)

Reason: ''
Toby

Post by Toby »

THERE IS A NEW ROSTER FOR DOWNLOAD.


Again: Do Freebooters contribute to the Team Rating and its HANDICAP.

???

Reason: ''
User avatar
GalakStarscraper
Godfather of Blood Bowl
Posts: 15882
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Indiana, USA
Contact:

Post by GalakStarscraper »

Yes Freebooters count towards the handicap at the price you paid for them.

Galak

Reason: ''
Toby

Post by Toby »

Hi Galak,

refsheet2001.pdf says:

PRE-MATCH SEQUENCE
1. Hire Freebooters, Wizards
and Star Players.
2. Roll on Weather Table.
3. Work out the Gate.
4. Work out Handicap.
5. Roll on Handicap Table.
6. Roll for Niggling Injuries.

POST-MATCH SEQUENCE
1. Work out each team’s
winnings.
2. Allocate MVP’s points
and make Star Player Rolls.
3. Roll on the Fan Factor Table.
4. Hire new Players.
5. Work out new Team Rating.


#5 Post Match Sequence must be moved to be #2 on the Post Match Sequence. "2. Roll on Weather Table" must become #7

or not ?

Reason: ''
User avatar
GalakStarscraper
Godfather of Blood Bowl
Posts: 15882
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Indiana, USA
Contact:

Post by GalakStarscraper »

Nope ... hiring Freebooters has no effect on TR at all.

If I freeboot a Human Lineman for 25k he counts 25k towards my team rating.

So no effect at all ... the order of events is fine as is.

Galak

Reason: ''
User avatar
Zy-Nox
Ex-Mega Star, now just a Super Star
Ex-Mega Star, now just a Super Star
Posts: 1310
Joined: Sun May 19, 2002 2:18 pm
Location: Bringing Fouling To A New Level.

Post by Zy-Nox »

Just one question.
Why?
Why should they be moved?
And wheres this roster?

Reason: ''
User avatar
GalakStarscraper
Godfather of Blood Bowl
Posts: 15882
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Indiana, USA
Contact:

Post by GalakStarscraper »

I'm pretty sure Toby might be referring to the electronic roster tools that the Blood Bowl site provides Zy-Nox.

Galak

Reason: ''
User avatar
Zy-Nox
Ex-Mega Star, now just a Super Star
Ex-Mega Star, now just a Super Star
Posts: 1310
Joined: Sun May 19, 2002 2:18 pm
Location: Bringing Fouling To A New Level.

Post by Zy-Nox »

Oh. I thought he was referring to the printed ones :oops:
I must admit I've never looked at the ones at the BB site.

Reason: ''
Toby

Post by Toby »

Ok Galak, what you say is Version A:

All freebooters cost their respective appearance fee, so treasury is reduced, and Team rating stays the same.

The Wizard Entry on the refsheet2001.pdf file must be removed then, not changed like it was.


Version B is also possible:

A Freebooter adds to the Team Roster his full COST according to the Team or Starplayer Lists.

Griff Oberwald adds 180K to the Total Cost of team, even if he freeboots for 90.000

Reason: ''
User avatar
GalakStarscraper
Godfather of Blood Bowl
Posts: 15882
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Indiana, USA
Contact:

Post by GalakStarscraper »

No its Version A definitely ... team rating does not go up from freebooting IF I understand the rules correctly.

And yes the wizard is an error on the pdf being listed still as 150k.

Galak

Reason: ''
Toby

Post by Toby »

They Changed

Team Wizard @ 150.000

to

Freebooter Wizard @ 50.000


Doesn't make any sense at all.

Reason: ''
User avatar
GalakStarscraper
Godfather of Blood Bowl
Posts: 15882
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Indiana, USA
Contact:

Post by GalakStarscraper »

No that's right ... freebooted wizards now cost 50k to freeboot so that is the effect on team rating also.

Galak

Reason: ''
Toby

Post by Toby »

Galak, why the heck should i write a HIRED Wizard in my Team roster ? and recalculate my TCOT if the Guy vanishes right after the Game, and therefore doesnt affect the ROSTER at all ?

I mean, theres no line for Halfling Master Chefs neither, or Dwarfen Alchemists. is there ?

Either you write everybody participating in the Game on the Sheet, adding their COST, or you simply pay the hire fee and dont change the roster at all.

Assuming you are wright about Treasury & Team Rating, the Wizardline must be deleted completely.

Reason: ''
Post Reply