4th Edition - How BB was ruined?

[Skummy]

It didn't make sense to a lot of people. Even Accurate wasn't all that great, since you couldn't use it if you had used your Pass skill already. As I understand it, 4th ed rules were out there to limit the effectiveness of the godlike 5 and 6 skill players. I much prefer the aging system and changed money table.

[Raven_Talons]

So every example I use was correct. God I have to make sure my legaue is playing this way.

[Zombie]

so let me get this straght. One skill per action. So I couldn't use accurate and strong arm togther. WHY WOULD I WANT STRONG ARM THEN. Also it means that while blocking the block roll happens. My guy has block theres don't. They fall down. Now I can't use pile on cause I used the block skill. The same thing with tackle. If I got the knockdown unless dodge roll and I have tackle. There down but now I can't use pileing because I used tackle. This si not making any sense to me

You could use strong arm because it was a trait, not a skill. As for the other ones you mentioned, the reasoning was that if you put the player down using your block skill or your tackle skill, one could say that you barely succeeded, and that you're too off-balance as a result to use any other skill.

[Zombie]

So every example I use was correct. God I have to make sure my legaue is playing this way.

Why, is your league playing with 4th edition? I thought that ruleset was dead for good and that nobody used it anymore...

[Balrog]

4th edition was the stupidest thing to ever come out of GW regarding BB. Let's all leave it to die in peace and never, ever mention it again.

-Balrog

[Zombie]

4th ed was one of the best thing ever to happen to Blood Bowl. Too bad that most of the community wasn't enlightened enough to accept it.

[Balrog]

4th ed was one of the best thing ever to happen to Blood Bowl. Too bad that most of the community wasn't enlightened enough to accept it.

Sorry Zombie, this is something that you and the rest of the BB community here will have to agree to disagree on.

-Balrog

[Zombie]

Well, then it's something where this forum will have to disagree with the old BBC, because most of the people who posted there liked it.

[Balrog]

Well, then it's something where this forum will have to disagree with the old BBC, because most of the people who posted there liked it.

Let's not turn this into a TalkBB vs BBC thread.

4th edition was poorly thought out, and community outcry is the reason why it was canned so quick; and good thing too because it unified the BB community and now we have the BBRC and a new revitalized game, which is way better then what we had before.

-Balrog

[GalakStarscraper]

4th ed was one of the best thing ever to happen to Blood Bowl. Too bad that most of the community wasn't enlightened enough to accept it.

[BlanchPrez]

<sarcasim> Wow, I really wish I could get in on this mud slinging going on against 4th edition! </sarcasim>

Honestly, I play a few games of 2nd Edition (still have the pitch), an entire season of 3rd edition, and then didn't play until reciently with the LRB, so I skipped 4th edition entierly. In fact, when I first came back to the game, I thought the LRB WAS 4th edition, that's how behind I was in things. But, from what I have experienced, I gotta go with the LRB as the best of the three (though I do miss special play cards).

Chris

[Ghost of Pariah]

I was at the BBC and I didn't alot of agreement on 4th over there.

And isn't most of BBC over here?

[Colin]

I've played 2ed, 3ed, and ran a league using "4th edition" rules when they came out. I could see the reasoning behind the OSPA rule, to tone the power level down, but found that it took a lot of the fun out of the game. When I read the article JJ wrote in the CJ stating that 4ed was going to be scrapped (and that it hadn't really been playtested at all) and that they were going to start all over again with making new rules set, I almost quit BB for good. The only thing that started me playing again, (other than the fact that I had a whole sh*t load of minis) was that I took a look at the LRB when it first came out and found that it was pretty good. The 2.0 version is the best rules set for BB so far.

[MistWraith]

4th ed was one of the best thing ever to happen to Blood Bowl. Too bad that most of the community wasn't enlightened enough to accept it.

I liked 4th Ed. It got me back into Blood Bowl after the crap that 3rd was. Shure it had flaws, but nothing a few tweaks could not have fixed.

[WraithNeon]

so let me get this straght. One skill per action. So I couldn't use accurate and strong arm togther. WHY WOULD I WANT STRONG ARM THEN. Also it means that while blocking the block roll happens. My guy has block theres don't. They fall down. Now I can't use pile on cause I used the block skill. The same thing with tackle. If I got the knockdown unless dodge roll and I have tackle. There down but now I can't use pileing because I used tackle. This si not making any sense to me

The kind peeps at Fanatic did mention that it was only skills which gave you rerolls that were mutually exclusive (ie: you could only use one of them per action) in 4th ed. Still I do think that even one use of each skill per turn per player is limiting the fun quite a bit! Woodelves a durned fast so they should be able to dodge-dodge-dodge their way to a TD! And anyone whos fought a ogre in FB will know they dont go down after one hit...Those brutes should be able to easily block, even if they have taken a minor action prior to the main act!