SillySod wrote:That is a fair argument but try turning it on its head.
There are many problems with your turning the argument on it's head.
Suppose I am a Cyanide player and I want to take part in tabletop. As things stand I would be surprised to discover that people were using random house ruled rosters called "Slann" and "Pact"... lolwhut?
a) the NAF doesn't support or pander to the Cyanide playerbase. That might sound harsh, but it's setup to support the GW playerbase, and the lolwhutting Cyanide player would quickly be educated in and realise the difference. If they then ragequit NAF because of the lack of Khorne it's arguable they probably weren't too mature anyway.
b) I'd argue that anyone playing BB exclusively online who somehow has missed this nonsense would very quickly be appraised of both sides of the discussion and can make their decision to continue tabletop, or go back to Cyanide only. But I seriously think the lack of one single roster for someone who has already decided they want to play tabletop is NOT going to change their mind.
However, it turns out that these jokers have also decided to ban the Khorne roster. Not Amazons or some jerkass annoying roster... Khorne... riiiight.
a) by having a weak argument, you've introduced the "jerkass Amazon"s as a strawman argument in the vain hope that poking fun the unpopular kid will give you more credence. Fail.
Honestly, if I were new to the hobby I think I would find this somewhat hard to appreciate given that the Khorne roster is clearly more official (it isn't actually official but it is has been approved for publishing, unlike Slann).
I love that. It's clearly more official but not actually official. And if you hark back to the last few posts of me trying to reiterate the idea that Cyanide official does not mean GW official, maybe you might spot that it's anything BUT clearly official.
I think that, should we turn down the Khorne roster, we will have already entered rules fracture territory. If we accept it then we might be able to evade that possibility.
If GW publish an official ruleset replacing LRB6 and include Khorne and the NAF decide NOT to take it on then (and so far, only then) I'll agree. Otherwise your arguments are fatally flawed.
Prior to the Khorne roster all(?) Cyanide house rules were optional and not actually accepted in their competitive leagues. It is certainly the case for the majority of games played - Dode can probably clarify the situation as things stand today. Besides, GW and Cyanide have consistently expressed the opinion that their game emulates tabletop BB.
Please link to GW's statement that it emulates tabletop but while you're doing that, look up the definition of emulation.
Hence the argument that "Cyanide is a totally different game" seems a little thin.
That's not the argument. It's Cyanide and their interpretation of GW's IP vs GW's official stated position on the matter. You're putting words in our mouths by implying we've said it's a totally different game, pls don't.
Remember when TBB members used to hate on FUMBBL and MBBL by pretending that it wasn't "real" BB? It feels like you are treading the same path.
Dodgy extrapolation that, comparing the alleged hatred to the debate over a roster? Doesn't tally up, it's apples and oranges. And come to that, I've been around here as long as anyone else and don't remember any outright hatred?
I'm not a fan of FUMBBL personally but certainly don't hate it and what it does for the community at large has been of great value. To a much (much) lesser extent I think Cyanide has done something similar, attracting a small number of people who weren't already involved with BB to the hobby. That's all good. But let's not forget the order of precedence here, and who in fact has "fractured the community". FUMBBL has tried pioneering it's own stuff, stunty leagues, all skink teams, tons more over the years but is content to keep them within it's own community. It lives alongside NAF, the two have reached a shared place where they are different ways of doing the same thing and EVERYONE benefits. Cyanide came along, maybe stole a few thousand (tens?) of FUMBBL players but again we were at least playing the same game. Now it's trying to change things but without realising it's not the driving force in the community. GW is. So it all comes full Farming circle and we realise until GW say so, it's not legit.
Just to make it very clear - this is where I am coming from as well.
Now you've totally Farming confused me
