Cyanide... a new card system?

[garion]

... they have a release date.

Do they

I'm sure they have a nice bug filled release date in mind.

[sann0638]

However there was a good idea from sann in here, where

it's what i do. Have you not noticed?

[Waldorf28]

Darkson, your opinion of Cyanide is well documented. You are always hyper-critical. You can't be under NDA since you are such an opinionated soul you could not possibly have been given access to the BB2 Alpha forums and managed to remain silent.

There's an opportunity to make a positive difference here. I just hope the NAF don't have their heads so far in the sand/up their own arses that they fail to act now.

Entering into a constructive dialogue to prevent an as yet theoretical rules split is worth a darned sight more to the BB community in the long run than a set of dice or a shiny token.

[Darkson]

Darkson, your opinion of Cyanide is well documented. You are always hyper-critical. You can't be under NDA since you are such an opinionated soul you could not possibly have been given access to the BB2 Alpha forums and managed to remain silent.

Never said I was. I was under NDA for BB LE though, and there was someone from the NAF in contact with Cyanide/Focus there that never appeared on the testing forum - I don't understand why you think that is the only way they'd have to speak to them.

[Waldorf28]

I hope you're right. I suspect you are wrong. I will enjoy returning to this thread in the future to rub it in

[Waldorf28]

I think you somewhat missed the point wal. The issue here is Cyanide are making a computer game, they have a releayse date. If they are changing any rules and someone from the NAF tells them they are bad rules or could be splitting the player base etc... it will make no difference.

However there was a good idea from sann in here, where he said cyanide could possibly help promote the TT side of things a little more or point people towards The NAF in some small way.

No, I think you have somewhat missed the point. If the NAF doesn't get involved now, TT and BB2 may end up being *different games*. Would the NAF want to be associated with a non-CRP/LRB6 ruleset? Previous hissy-fits about Khorne would suggest not.

There needs to be a whole lot less "telling" and more talking. But I've said my piece and am now repeating myself. I know trying to be open minded and constructive about Cyanide here at TFF will make me as popular as a leper in a hot tub, so I'll leave you all to it.

[Darkson]

It's not like Cyanide and Focus (who have as much as a say as well) don't already know about the CRP - it took a lot of effort to get BB1 to go from LRB5 to LRB6/CRP. Add in that GW have the final say on anything, so if they didn't want anything different in there (say the stadium rules) then they'd veto them. The fact that Focus are promoting the Brettonians pretty much shows that GW are happy for them to divulge from the CRP, and if they want it to be different it will be - doesn't matter if the NAF would like it otherwise, and lets be honest, if GW say "X", then both Focus and Cyanide will do so, whether they agree or not.

[Waldorf28]

That's quite defeatist if you ask me, but I totally understand where you're coming from.

I guess I'm a glass-half-full kinda guy who hopes against hope BB2 can make everyone happy. I guess the last laugh may well be on me.

[Darkson]

Id love for them to actually come out with a game that is 100% CRP compliant (within reason - I don't expect the cards for example) with as many optional bells and whistles as they like, its just that both Cyanide's and Focus's past record (not just on BB) doesn't suggest they'll manage it.

[ChenZhen]

http://www.bloodbowl-game.com/

From the Dwarves are (Death)rolling out story

"...it’s time for the 3rd of the 8 races of Blood Bowl 2..."

Emphasis mine. The game looks pretty, that is for sure. I am cautiously hopeful about the AI. However, I'm not interested in playing 1/3 of the game. I'll probably check out the game...but I'll wait for the full version this time. I brought DE and then LE. I skipped Chaos, as I already had 2 games, and I wasn't interested in adding 3 new teams to the same game. Going back to 8 teams (even beautifully rendered teams with great AI) isn't appealing enough to me to "need" to get this game right away.

I hope this game is awesome, I really do! However, I'm going to wait to pick it up.

[SillySod]

This might not be a popular opinion but...

I would be more likely to play the cyanide game if they completely shake up the rules.

We've been playing CRP and LRB5 for what, more than five years now? Maybe seven? It is a nice ruleset but it certainly isn't perfect either. The longer it stays static the less exciting it gets and the flaws only get more obvious. Frankly I'm not expecting them to achieve great things but they have a 100% higher chance of capturing my attention by creating a brand new game in the image of bloodbowl than they do if they create another imitation of the board game.

[Fassbinder75]

Agree with Sillysod. I would like changes, even if it just meant mixing up things and picking different 'winners'.

[garion]

Yeah its a fair point from Sillysod tbh. I guess we will just have to wait and see, I wish they would give us some more details though so we actually knew what they were up to.

[DarthBLU]

I'd love changes too if bretonians appear in the game then we'll use them in our league!

[garion]

Id love for them to actually come out with a game that is 100% CRP compliant (within reason - I don't expect the cards for example) with as many optional bells and whistles as they like, its just that both Cyanide's and Focus's past record (not just on BB) doesn't suggest they'll manage it.

You could always just play on fumbbl darkson - https://fumbbl.com/~Darkson

Thats pretty much there apart from a few minor bugs that are being ironed out for the next client release. Heck they even some of the cards available too.