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Well I'm thinking a base team with RS Ogres unable to use rerolls should accomplish just that. IE ... we'll be helping JJ get what we know he really deep inside wanted ...Zombie wrote:My guess is that they've just lost touch with reality and don't know what's strong and what's not. Deep inside, i'm sure they (well at least Jervis anyway) wanted them pathetic.
Yeah, but the blitzers should have "big guy" as well. I know the BBRC (and i) would like that better as it makes the rules more consistent. The fewer exceptions, the better. I know you don't feel the same way (you want as many exceptions as possible, as can be seen from your leagues' rules), but i strongly believe in a plain, consistent game.GalakStarscraper wrote:Well I'm thinking a base team with RS Ogres unable to use rerolls should accomplish just that. IE ... we'll be helping JJ get what we know he really deep inside wanted ...Zombie wrote:My guess is that they've just lost touch with reality and don't know what's strong and what's not. Deep inside, i'm sure they (well at least Jervis anyway) wanted them pathetic.
I agree with Zombie. Ogres without Big Guy would just feel wrong. Much more wrong than Ogre-Blockers with access to General Skills (though this must-have-access-to-7th-skill issue is lame). And give those Blockers TTM. Geeze, they've got AG 1, BG and RS. Do it for fluff's and consistency's sake.I don't know about that. Jervis likes his big guys pathetic, and the BBRC likes consistency in the rules. A team where all the ogres had the "big guy" skill, and general access (so that you don't have to write an additional rule for what happens if you get to 7 skills) would probably fly better by Jervis, the BBRC and me!
Really .... JJ+Andy+Milo+Chet = the voting majority of the BBRC and they all have presented Ogre concepts that do not have Big Guy Ogres ... got me how you can make this generic statement.Zombie wrote:Yeah, but the blitzers should have "big guy" as well. I know the BBRC (and i) would like that better
I have two leagues thank you very much, so you've made two incorrect generic statements in one post. I DO NOT like exceptions and my MBBL league doesn't have them, and the MBBL2 uses the LRB rules as its base with virtually no exceptions also, the teams and stuff are EXTRAs .. NOT EXCEPTIONS ... important difference.I know you don't feel the same way (you want as many exceptions as possible, as can be seen from your leagues' rules)
Your argument is perfectly valid, agreed. But what about a less rigid Team List (0-6 Gobs, 0-2 BG-Blitzers), which might provide at least a few alternative choices to begin with and prevents the Cockerel from becoming utterly broken in the long run? Or are my fears of what this Cockerel might develop into unjustified indeed?Marcus wrote:Worth mentioning that starting rosters for this roster suck mightily. As it should be.
Consider:
7xBlockers
4xGoblins
1xRR
7xFF.
Impossible to start with more than one reroll and you'll never afford Blitzers if you don't get 7 FF to start with. At least most of your team won't be using rerolls....
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0-12 Ogre Blocker 4 5 2 9 Really Stupid, Mighty Blow, TSkull, Big Guy
100k G/S
0-4 Ogre Blitzer 5 5 2 9 Bonehead, Mighty Blow, TSkull, TTM
120k G/S
0-4 Goblin Catcher 6 2 3 7 Dodge, Stunty, Right Stuff
40k A
70k Rerolls
More Goblins blur the lines between this team and the Goblin team too much ... 4 Goblins really is the max that should be considered. Also Marcus was saying he liked the starting roster for the team and I'd agree with him. ... ie he wasn't saying it showed a problem, thus no reason to feel the need to change the roster.Mirascael wrote:less rigid Team List (0-6 Gobs, 0-2 BG-Blitzers)
Those extras often ARE the exceptions. For example, all the extra rules for vampires, etc. Those are huge exceptions in my book, and i'm against that sort of thing. Keep the game simple, i say.GalakStarscraper wrote:I have two leagues thank you very much, so you've made two incorrect generic statements in one post. I DO NOT like exceptions and my MBBL league doesn't have them, and the MBBL2 uses the LRB rules as its base with virtually no exceptions also, the teams and stuff are EXTRAs .. NOT EXCEPTIONS ... important difference.
Fine, leave the MBBL2 out of it, and you'll find we are in perfect agreement as I don't have exceptions in the MBBL. Doesn't change the fact that I was trying to compromise here with the Blitzer since a voting majority of the BBRC have already proposed it not to delibrately add exceptions to the game as you suggest.Zombie wrote:Keep the game simple, i say.
This is all getting side tracked because Zombie had to add in his normal personal slam in one of his post.Pariah wrote:Zombie, you need to look at the MBBl rules. The MBBL is different from the MBBL2. The MBBL is pure LRB and BB Mag experimental rules.
