Dwarves are filth...
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Re: Dwarves are filth...
The deathroller is an expensive liability, few good coaches have it as a permanent member of the team. It does have uses as a merc with some bribes.
You’re forgetting that compared to Orcs a typical team of Dwarfs have lower average MA, ST, AG and AV. The team has the lowest MA and the 2nd lowest AG in the game both of which are huge disadvantages. Scoring or defending with dwarfs is very difficult against a full opposing team.
Longbeards get a lot of flack, but tackle is useless against most bash teams and if they lose block you’d be stuck with what is effectively a zombie that is harder to injure but won’t regen. Blitzers are overcosted if you compare them to their Orc equivalent as are runners compared to human throwers.
Another weakness is the complete lack of strength in the team, all the other bashy teams have at least 2 ST4+ players. So without dauntless on the slayer and the ability to get mass guard then dwarfs would have no chance in the blocking war against other bash as well as being unable to run away.
You’re forgetting that compared to Orcs a typical team of Dwarfs have lower average MA, ST, AG and AV. The team has the lowest MA and the 2nd lowest AG in the game both of which are huge disadvantages. Scoring or defending with dwarfs is very difficult against a full opposing team.
Longbeards get a lot of flack, but tackle is useless against most bash teams and if they lose block you’d be stuck with what is effectively a zombie that is harder to injure but won’t regen. Blitzers are overcosted if you compare them to their Orc equivalent as are runners compared to human throwers.
Another weakness is the complete lack of strength in the team, all the other bashy teams have at least 2 ST4+ players. So without dauntless on the slayer and the ability to get mass guard then dwarfs would have no chance in the blocking war against other bash as well as being unable to run away.
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Re: Dwarvest filth...
HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haHeff wrote:But you say,they are all strength 3. WRONG, your Ginger tw*t has dauntless,
on a 2 he is strength 4
On a 3 he is strength 5
on a 4 he is str 6
and you get the picture
And you get to re-roll any failures on your INSTA BIG GUY without the risk of loner. Also you have 2 of them.
Then we have the Journeyman question.
Which team has the best Journeymen. Is it Ogres?
a snot 5135 Titchy stunty sidestep right stuff, NO
Humans
6338 no skills No
orcs they are good
5339 no skills No we can do better than that
Chaos Dwarves
6337 no skills (You are just being silly now)
Oh I remember
DWARVES
4329 Block Tackle Thick Skull. But then he does have Loner so using re-rolls is a risk, like you need re-rolls.
I am going to have a lie down now!

Best Rant.
I love dwarves and they aren't filth. I have played with them and against them and I think that they aren't the most broken team in the game. Orcs have a larger advantage: AV9 apart from a player who will never get blocked (if you play them right), 4 x 6MA, ST3, AG3 block specialists, 4x ST4 pounders, 2 x AG3 Sure handers, 1 Big guy, and then you can have a stunty. You don't have to field a lineman if you don't want. Very dodgy.
It is funny how people target the little dwarves...poor dwarves.

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Wow 

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I am here all week.JDW wrote:Then the cherry on this little pie is the Deathroller cos that is what this team needs a secret weapon. But its only on for one drive you say. YOU get to choose which one and if you put it on when you are not receiving then you are not only a cnt for playing dwarves at all but a stupid one for playing them wrongly! If you cannot stall out for an 8 turn drive to score with dwarves then really you need to go and play canasta with your dad...if you can find him.
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I vote that every monday, someone starts a thread about dwarves just to get Heff started 
Personally, I'd never start a dwarf team without a 'roller... but then I'm terrible with the bearded stunties so may as well try to make things a tiny bit more fun.

Personally, I'd never start a dwarf team without a 'roller... but then I'm terrible with the bearded stunties so may as well try to make things a tiny bit more fun.
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Don't get me wrong but I wouldn't change it. Not sure why they have tackle though unless it's just a boost otherwise it's loads of dodge to get out of their way.
I just forgot how annoying the damn things were.
I just forgot how annoying the damn things were.
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Ahh - a WE player i see ...Smurf wrote:Don't get me wrong but I wouldn't change it. Not sure why they have tackle though unless it's just a boost otherwise it's loads of dodge to get out of their way.
I just forgot how annoying the damn things were.


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Sorry, I actually nodded off there halfway through the first post and only woke up again at the end of the secondHeff wrote:...some stuff...

I'm buying a dwarf team just for you, then grudging you at our next tourney, and we can have a ''challenge of the miserable, angry basterds face off''.
I'll even supply a trophy, which can be a traveling trophy, and we can compete for it at every tourney in future with the winner decided by a vote from the other players


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mummblemummble F*CK OFF mummblemummblemummbleJT-Y wrote:Sorry, I actually nodded off there halfway through the first post and only woke up again at the end of the secondHeff wrote:...some stuff...![]()
I'm buying a dwarf team just for you, then grudging you at our next tourney, and we can have a ''challenge of the miserable, angry basterds face off''.
I'll even supply a trophy, which can be a traveling trophy, and we can compete for it at every tourney in future with the winner decided by a vote from the other players

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Your point on deathrollers, I agree with as I said.spubbbba wrote:The deathroller is an expensive liability, few good coaches have it as a permanent member of the team. It does have uses as a merc with some bribes.
You’re forgetting that compared to Orcs a typical team of Dwarfs have lower average MA, ST, AG and AV. The team has the lowest MA and the 2nd lowest AG in the game both of which are huge disadvantages. Scoring or defending with dwarfs is very difficult against a full opposing team.
Longbeards get a lot of flack, but tackle is useless against most bash teams and if they lose block you’d be stuck with what is effectively a zombie that is harder to injure but won’t regen. Blitzers are overcosted if you compare them to their Orc equivalent as are runners compared to human throwers.
Another weakness is the complete lack of strength in the team, all the other bashy teams have at least 2 ST4+ players. So without dauntless on the slayer and the ability to get mass guard then dwarfs would have no chance in the blocking war against other bash as well as being unable to run away.
I am forgetting nothing. Orc blitzers have 1 skill, dwarves have 2, orc linos have none, dwarfs have 3, black orcs have none, slayers have 4, orc runners have 2 as do dwarfs. so lower mv str, ag and av, but a massive advantage in skills and a chunk of those skills are block. Starting orc team 4 block players, starting dwarf team 9 or 10.
I have covered the "lack" of strength, at least on attack.
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I have a Dwarf team and I lose some games and I win some games
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and YOU can F*ck off TOOnonumber wrote:I have a Dwarf team and I lose some games and I win some games

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Re: Dwarves are filth...
That time of the month again is it?
Yawn.
I note that at no point has it been asked what team was being played aginst these Dwarfs.
Hard to give a good answer when this rather important piece of information is missing.
Yawn.
I note that at no point has it been asked what team was being played aginst these Dwarfs.
Hard to give a good answer when this rather important piece of information is missing.
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Yep sat on my sofa cuddling a hot water bottle and biting peoples heads off.
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Re: Dwarves are filth...
The W Elf guess was correct; not only did Smurf play two dwarf's at the start of the league he played two dwarf teams in an evening.




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