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Blitz and "Ball&Chain"

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If the kick-off event is Blitz, is it possible to activate the Ball&Chain player ?

On one Side, this is a special action, so the answer is NO
On the other side, this is a kind of movement, so the answer is YES.

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Blitz is limited to Move Action and the B&C player is limited to 'Ball & Chain Move ’Special action.
I'd say no.

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lunchmoney wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:04 pm Blitz is limited to Move Action and the B&C player is limited to 'Ball & Chain Move ’Special action.
I'd say no.
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This question can be generalized: Is that list exhaustive?

So player can make:
  • Move action
  • Blitz action (one)
  • Throw Team-mate action (one)
Can't make:
  • No any Special Action.
  • No Foul action.
  • Trivially no Pass action or Hand-off action because there are no ball in the game (not yet landed).
  • And no Block action (because player must be Open).
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Whole Blitz! has been changed since BB2016 when Coach played every player not-marked when Blitz! started, so if Blitz action moved opposition player to the reach of Block, also Block actions were allowed.

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What? I'm not seeing the relevance to the OPs question or Second Season rules. Can you elaborate?

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After re-reading the original question I understand the question was about "kind of movement" VS "Move action".

I have personally been struggling what changed between BB2016 and BB2020, e.g. how Blitz!-event is played on Second Season. Because that, I misunderstood this question for being: What are allowed/disallowed actions in Blitz!-event? And then I figured every possible actions in the game and classified them allowed/disallowed in Blitz!

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Aha, fair enough 👍

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And after all I'm still not sure can use Chainsaw Attack Special action inside of Blitz action when Blitz!-event happens. I think it is allowed, because you are allowed to make Blitz action.

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What about throwing a bomb?

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Centipede wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 9:26 pm What about throwing a bomb?
Ball and Chain can't throw a bomb.

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lunchmoney wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:43 am
Centipede wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 9:26 pm What about throwing a bomb?
Ball and Chain can't throw a bomb.
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I meant what about throwing a bomb during a Blitz kick-off event

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Centipede wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:19 pm
lunchmoney wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:43 am
Centipede wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 9:26 pm What about throwing a bomb?
Ball and Chain can't throw a bomb.
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I meant what about throwing a bomb during a Blitz kick-off event
Can't do that, either.

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I would also answer NO for all special actions during a Blitz event (so for Ball & Chain special action and for Throw Bomb special action).

In Kick-Off Event Table, page 41, for Blitz event, this is stated that are only available during a Blitz event "Move actions", "1 Blitz action" and "1 Throw Team Mate action".
All other actions aren't listed.

All available actions during game are listed page 43 :
-Move
-Pass
-Hand-Off
-Throw Team-Mate
-Block
-Blitz
-Foul
-Special actions

I agree with jawCross, the ones which aren't listed in Blitz event description aren't available during a Blitz event. So no Pass, no Hand-Off, no Block, no Foul and no Special actions. ;)

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