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Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 2:49 pm
by JT-Y
I'll get proper pics of my team this week.
That's two NAF Champs and two Best Painted awards. I expect next year will be tougher again !)

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:45 pm
by Stig
JT-Y wrote:I'll get proper pics of my team this week.
That's two NAF Champs and two Best Painted awards. I expect next year will be tougher again !)
Congrats - those dwarves were truly awesome! Really cool idea painted superbly

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 6:45 pm
by sann0638
I like a good spreadsheet, so here is one. Feel free to do some analysis and post the results!

First up, average scores from home nations teams:
England 8.6
Scotland 7.5
Wales 6.5

racial breakdown
race count
Chaos Pact 1
High Elf 1
Khemri 1
Pro Elf 1
Slann 1
Nurgle Rotters 2
Underworld 2
Vampire 2
Chaos 3
Chaos Dwarf 3
Ogre 3
Human 4
Orc 6
Amazon 7
Goblin 8
Dwarf 9
Necromantic Undead 9
Norse 11
Undead 11
Lizardman 12
Dark Elf 13
Skaven 14
Halfling 15
Wood Elf 22

What else of interest can people find out?

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 8:45 pm
by robsoma
I do love a good stat and this is statastic!!

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:11 am
by TheDancingClown
I was having a play around with the spreadsheet this morning looking at average ranking per race. Nothing particularly surprising there but it got me thinking.

Is there any tournament that pitches teams of races against each other? So perhaps teams of 3 with final results then taking the average tournament ranking of those 3, add a few handicaps due to tiers and opponents faced etc. Logistically it sounds a nightmare but seems like a fun (and fair?) event.

My maths is so appalling my calculation from the NAF results placed Goblins in 1st place just ahead of Lizardmen and Halflings (ignoring the High Elf who only had 1 coach) so if anyone knows how to do this calculation please let me know.

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:06 pm
by sann0638
Interestingly, the Eurobowl does approximately this, as most teams choose from the same 8-10 races (slight change this year), so you have one player of each race making up a team, and they compete against teams made up of approximately the same races. If that's what you meant...

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:13 pm
by Aino
sann0638 wrote:I like a good spreadsheet, so here is one. Feel free to do some analysis and post the results!

What else of interest can people find out?
That according to your spreadsheet there will be a country called "Nurgle" taking part in the Eurobowl?
:o
W

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:18 pm
by neilnickson
More Halfling teams than any other race apart from Wood Elves, I declare the Halfling Challenge a resounding success!

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:23 pm
by sann0638
Aino wrote:
sann0638 wrote:I like a good spreadsheet, so here is one. Feel free to do some analysis and post the results!

What else of interest can people find out?
That according to your spreadsheet there will be a country called "Nurgle" taking part in the Eurobowl?
:o
W
I was waiting for someone to spot that. It was the smelly team!

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:40 pm
by TheDancingClown
sann0638 wrote:If that's what you meant...
Not quite. Each team has to have the same race.

So using Eurobowl example - Team England coaches all chose Human, Team Wales all chose Halfling etc.

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 5:47 pm
by Darkson
Just seen JT-Y's Dwarfs posted on FB - I can see why they won! :o

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 5:59 pm
by Darkson
On the races tab you have lizardman twice, one with 12, one with 1. And the total comes to 162, I think you've added an extra dwarf team to the total.

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:06 pm
by Darkson
Based on my post above, I think this is right, but there might be a couple of small errors.
This is a list of the average position each race managed (rounded to 0 decimal places):
  • Lizardman 41
    Amazon 46
    High Elf 52
    Norse 54
    Undead 57
    Dark Elf 60
    Wood Elf 65
    Skaven 68
    Dwarf 69
    Chaos Dwarf 92
    Necromantic Undead 93
    Orc 98
    Pro Elf 101
    Human 107
    Vampire 111
    Underworld 112
    Nurgle Rotters 113
    Goblin 118
    Halfling 130
    Slann 135
    Chaos 137
    Ogre 146
    Chaos Pact 148
    Khemri 149

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:55 pm
by Stig
What if you remove geggsters nurgle, who played only 1 game I think? They bring the average down as there were only 2 nurgle teams..

Re: NAFC 2014 : Winners & Final Standings

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:18 pm
by Mr Frodo
I love stats like this.

I really boosted the ogre average. :) (I was phanom nin)

Point of interest though, my team was set up to actually try and win (well, draw) games, while other Ogre teams are sometimes set up to cause lots of casualties.

2nd point of interest: Did having so many of one stunty team cause the figures to be skewed?

3rd point of interest: Where the hell were all these stunty team when I was fighting off hordes of Undead, Lizardmen and Orcs with just a snotling at times. :)