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I'm glad that they sorted all of this out before putting the tickets on sale :roll:

How come umpteen tourney organisers can manage to come up with definate rules for their events, but GW can't manage it for a game they own?

Useless :pissed:

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Because nobody takes any time/care to think these things through, but just rehashes the previous years rules, so efectively the rules pack is still based on LRB 4 not 5.

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So when we they let us know if these rules are going to be offivcial, on the day?

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Rab wrote:
Darkson wrote:
Very likely that Goblins will be able to buy bribes as per the LRB5 (so not at the reduced 50k that might go in LRB6).


I really hope so. In fact I've just emailed them asking for confirmation on this. ["fingers crossed" hopeful smiley]


To quick off the bat. The guy organising the tournament has been away at a course all last week, so Brian Aderson needs to talk to him before any confirmation is given.

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So when we they let us know if these rules are going to be offivcial, on the day?


There will be a "house rules" document released (and posted on as many BB/wargaming forums as possible), very soon.

I agree it's not an ideal situation (hell, let's be honest here, it's a bit of a balls up :roll:), but at least they are trying to fix things. It doesn't help when higher management change the person in charge of the tournament in February, and then send the new head honcho out of the country and on courses before the tournament.

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How come umpteen tourney organisers can manage to come up with definate rules for their events, but GW can't manage it for a game they own?


Because most tournament organizers run one, maybe two tournament a year, normally for about 50 people max, and for a game that is, in the vast majority of times, their favourite GW game (and sometimes their only GW game).
Meanwhile the tournament team are perparing for 2 or more tournaments a month, for normally 100+ people (approx 200 for the BB), for at least 6 different rules systems, of which BB isn't a big game on the radar.
To be brutally honest, I was surprised it was even partially updated to LRB5 in the original rules pack.

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i could organise 2 tournaments a month if i was being paid to do it

even for a game i didn't know the rules too

specially if the company had been running pretty much the same events for the last god knows how many years

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specially if the company had been running pretty much the same events for the last god knows how many years


Well, with the speed GW changes it's rules for it's games (especially for tournament play), god knows that's about 0.66 years.

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Darkson wrote:
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How come umpteen tourney organisers can manage to come up with definate rules for their events, but GW can't manage it for a game they own?
Because most tournament organizers run one, maybe two tournament a year, normally for about 50 people max,
Right, so they (the TO's) have an excuse. They don't do it for profit, they do it for the fun of the thing for a crowd of people who are also there for the fun of the thing.

GW on the other hand do it as part of their business, to make money from it. They have a massive room at their head office exactly for that prupose. And they still can't get it right.

The TO's who are doing it in addition to their jobs have an excuse. GW, who are doing it as part of their job don't!

I'm not having a go at you here btw. I just have no sympathy for the "take pity on GW" excuse that they're obviously peddling to those in the know. GW TOs should be able to O their own T's!

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I'm not having a go at you here btw. I just have no sympathy for the "take pity on GW" excuse that they're obviously peddling to those in the know. GW TOs should be able to O their own T's!


Well, Ispoken to both Brian and Andy recently (bty email and phone), so I know they're not being given as much time to organise this as they/we'd like, and as I said, sending the member of staff abroad and on courses before ANY tournament is hardly a good idea.
So if you want to have a go at someone, have a go at the management that decide to send the event staff anywhere but where they're job is.

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Fair point I suppose.

Who would have thought GW management would make dodgy decisions which would then have a negative impact on the customers of one of their specialist games range :wink: :lol: :roll:

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Igor Tahavanale wrote:
Who would have thought GW management would make dodgy decisions which would then have a negative impact on the customers of one of their specialist games range :wink: :lol: :roll:


GW management in dodgy decision shocker?
Who'd believe it!

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I just got this email from Andy Joyce:

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Tue 24 Apr 10:25:14 BST 2007

Hello there

Thanks for the email. Bribes can indeed be taken by the goblins as they
are now classed as an inducement, and therefore are eligible for
inclusion in their team roster.

Hope this helps.

Andy Joyce
Warhammer World Events


Hurray :D !

Althought this bit:

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an inducement, and therefore are eligible for inclusion in their team roster


may cause a few follow up questions...

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Sorry to have to disagree with you Darkson old fella, but I back Grum's stance 110%. Their JOB, their PAID EMPLOYMENT, is to organise events. Whether it be for 20 people or 200 people, all tournaments should be manageable. The fact is that the organisers that GW employ have little or no understanding of event flow, timing and systems management is not an excuse to defend them. For years now, various people have offered their services only to be turned away in favour of less able internal staff.

As a consumer then we have every right to question poor organisation ESPECIALLY as we're paying handsomely for the event.

Let's face facts, it's not that difficult to organise a tournament. Check list prior to event:
- Venue
- Date
- Rules pack
- Method of recording entrants, taking money and posting out packs
- Method of contacting entrants when you need to advise changes

Of these, only the Rules Pack is the semi-difficult part.

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well when you consider they own the venue as well ;o


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