Rules - will they change?

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Rules - will they change?

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Well I emailed the following to:

specgt@games-workshop.co.uk
Guys,

A couple of main comments on the suggested rules for the Bloodbowl in May.


1) 40% non-gaming points seems way way too high. Whilst I understand
modelling is important and GW want to sell minis, in my eyes if a tourney
winner is not the best player on the day in the tournament, then the whole
competition is undermined. I am all for having a painting and modelling
competition, but this should be separate to the games.

2) Having 10% based on a quiz written in English when the Blood Bowl
attracts a world community and other points based on having a written team
background (again in English) are wrong. NB a large number of people will
fly in. This (having an international crowd) creates a unique atmosphere
and should be encouraged not discouraged by insisting on an English quiz.
Again by all means have a fun quiz.... but don't give non Brits a big
disadvantage which means the winner is almost certainly going to be English
speaking. Also a good natured non-serious quiz must surely be better than a
serious "exam" type quiz.


There are a large number of individuals on TalkBloodbowl

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who are of like mind. Given that when I last checked circa 70 + members of
the bulletin board were going to the competition, I think our views should
be seriously considered.


Thanks,
and got the following response:
David,

In response to your emails I would like to point out few things

1) The tournament pack has been written and published so no changes are
practical at this time. This being said, if we receive enough feedback from
the players at the event then we will consider an amendment for next years
Blood Bowl.

2) The Blood Bowl, like all the GT's held in Nottingham at the moment, is a
UK Tournament. Because of this, the rules and all elements of the tournament
are written in English. If international players wish to travel over to the
UK to play Blood Bowl, then they are more than welcome, but it is still a UK
show and is formatted accordingly. We are not trying to exclude anybody, we
are purely providing the most practical way to run a tournament with the
time and facilities at our disposal. In addition, it doesn't seem to have
been an issue last year as the overall winner was in fact a Spanish Player
(Marcos Tarrasso Ocana) who didn't express any complaint about the format or
language restrictions within the UK Blood Bowl Tournament.

I look forward to meeting you and discussing this further if you wish

Brian Aderson

UK Tournaments Manager

So its looks like no change... but moan and complain and at least they may change for next year.


Dave

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Post by Ithilkir »

Well I'll moan and complain about the rules after I've played with them, no point in saying they are rubbish when we've not used them yet :)

(though only change I'd personally make would be to change the "won by xxx Touchdowns" to "won and had a combination of xxx more touchdowns and/or casualties than your opponent")

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We may all yet be pleasantly surprised by them...

Once you see the rule pack you'll realise that a large amount of that 40% fluff oriented marking is going to get the huge majority of people similar points, so your games' results will still be the deciding factor.

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2) The Blood Bowl, like all the GT's held in Nottingham at the moment, is a
UK Tournament. Because of this, the rules and all elements of the tournament
are written in English. If international players wish to travel over to the
UK to play Blood Bowl, then they are more than welcome, but it is still a UK
show and is formatted accordingly. We are not trying to exclude anybody, we
are purely providing the most practical way to run a tournament with the
time and facilities at our disposal. In addition, it doesn't seem to have
been an issue last year as the overall winner was in fact a Spanish Player
(Marcos Tarrasso Ocana) who didn't express any complaint about the format or
language restrictions within the UK Blood Bowl Tournament.
I think Brian missed one important point. Last year, the quiz had no impact on tournament ranking, and thus did not hinder Marcos from winning.

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Post by Geggster »

Slinky78 wrote:Once you see the rule pack you'll realise that a large amount of that 40% fluff oriented marking is going to get the huge majority of people similar points, so your games' results will still be the deciding factor.
Here, here.

No star players and TD difference taken into account sound like improvements to me.

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Post by juck101 »

am new to tournis but 40% does seam a bit high for non game record. this is pretty harsh on some players with demand on team paint job but guess its all fun :)

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Of course foreigner players didnt complain last year...
But writting a theme in English for our team is something different this year...

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Post by juck101 »

bit closer to the event - anyone with a team background they want proof read in english just send me PM. no problem at all to check. :D

sorry cant help with theme becasue i cant think of one...

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Here's an idea: about a week before the tournament, everyone slap their background up here. Proof reading/fluff correction/ criticism/suggestions and so on...

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but what if people steal my fluff and get more tourney points than me?? ;)

better still, everyone use the same fluff - create a template and people can just change the team name :lol:

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I agree - use the same template and just hand write the team name at the top so its obvious its a copy.....


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darthnoir wrote:
2) The Blood Bowl, like all the GT's held in Nottingham at the moment, is a
UK Tournament. Because of this, the rules and all elements of the tournament
are written in English. If international players wish to travel over to the
UK to play Blood Bowl, then they are more than welcome, but it is still a UK
show and is formatted accordingly. We are not trying to exclude anybody, we
are purely providing the most practical way to run a tournament with the
time and facilities at our disposal. In addition, it doesn't seem to have
been an issue last year as the overall winner was in fact a Spanish Player
(Marcos Tarrasso Ocana) who didn't express any complaint about the format or
language restrictions within the UK Blood Bowl Tournament.
I think Brian missed one important point. Last year, the quiz had no impact on tournament ranking, and thus did not hinder Marcos from winning.
Also, and everybody knows this, is that Marcos doesnt speak a word in english, like half of the Spanish Team. The chat that he had with Jervis was with me in the middle translating everything.
Dave, if you want just let GW know that... because the 2nd point is useless.

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