Oi Galak! (or anyone else!)

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:55 am

Can you give me your opinion on 2 things.
1. What do you think of the Savage Orcs in Comp.1. Do you think they fit well in the Orc roster or unbalance it?
2. What do you think of the Secret Weapon experimental rules in BB Mag 5? Again, do you think any player access unbalances teams and that only star players should have them?
Cheers DD.

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:19 pm

As to the savage orcs from comp 1. In the 3rd ed. league i played in all of the comp 1 players were used extensively, and none of them unbalanced things, although the iron maidens were a pain. I think they would be ok in 4th edition but have not seen enough playtesting to prove it.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:51 pm

I still use them. The reason I ask is that some are now saying that because of their frenzy they should be re-thought. I don't agree with this. If anyone is to have frenzy as a trait it should be them.

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:01 pm

I actually liked the savage orc position for the team...but then I liked most of the "extra" positions they had for the teams...dark elf assassin, dwarf thunderer, etc.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:08 pm

The DE assasin was great.

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:16 pm

Wasn't there a hobgoblin Sneaky Git too? If not, we created one for the CD team...

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:34 pm

Yes there was. Never played against him though. How does he fare?

Cervidal · Post by **Cervidal** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:39 pm

The Savage Orc is completely unnecessary for the team. As is, at the very most, their 16 man roster only has to have one Lineman on it. Put Savage Orcs on there and the team doesn't even need that.

Orcs also don't need another agility player.

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:47 pm

Cervidal not everyone agrees with the need for goblins and Ogres on an orc team or any of the nongreenskin allies for that matter. Goblins are for cheerleaders and apothecary aides.

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:09 pm

DeputyDawg wrote:Yes there was. Never played against him though. How does he fare?

He was actually an eye opener...it was a basic hobgoblin with Side Step and Shadowing...a good combo of skills. When I played with them they were a pain in the butt for many teams.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:15 pm

Why is he completely unnecessary? They are Orcs and they are good models and come with frenzy.

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:36 pm

True...I always had thought that the extra positions were optional and gave a bit of flavor to the teams that had them...and wanted to use them.

NightDragon · Post by **NightDragon** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 4:30 pm

Exactly, as long as they don't unbalance the team to make them stronger they are good to see.

Cervidal · Post by **Cervidal** » Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:42 am

Which is exactly what giving Savage Orcs to Orcs does; it unbalances the team. Can you name another team that would have access to a Big Guy, 8 guys with strength skill access, 6 with agility skills, and a pair of passers?

If I tried to put together a brand new roster with all of those attributes, I'd be laughed off of the board.

Relborn · Post by **Relborn** » Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:50 am

I agree with Cervidal. All of the special position from the compendium unbalance theese team, because they are viewed as additions to the positions already on the team.

If you really want to include them as a houserule, I advise you to replace existing position players with the new ones ...