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Actually notGalakStarscraper wrote:It should be noted as well ... I also believe that successful Tentacles would not allow a Vampire to bite a Thrall and thus force him to leave the pitch. The logic is exactly the same as the logic I just stated above for Hypnotic Gaze.
Galak
What are you saying exactly here?GalakStarscraper wrote:It should be noted as well ... I also believe that successful Tentacles would not allow a Vampire to bite a Thrall and thus force him to leave the pitch. The logic is exactly the same as the logic I just stated above for Hypnotic Gaze.
Galak
trentusdementus wrote:What are you saying exactly here?GalakStarscraper wrote:It should be noted as well ... I also believe that successful Tentacles would not allow a Vampire to bite a Thrall and thus force him to leave the pitch. The logic is exactly the same as the logic I just stated above for Hypnotic Gaze.
Galak
If the Vampire can't move, it can't Gaze?
Do I have to roll a dodge to gaze, if adjacent to an opposing player that's not the target of the gaze?
(most importantly) Can I: 1. roll bloodlust when activating the vampire. MUST
2. gaze the BON without moving. YES
3. feed(or not) on thralls. If failed BL
4.move other players away from the BON without tentacles rolls if the gaze was successful. YES
Sorry if the questions seem redundant but I'm playing a Vampire team and I'd appreciate some clarification.
Apparently, my reading/understanding of the rule was inaccurate.
It reads to me as though the gaze happens after the move is over. Tentacles just ends the move sooner.
But I understand your logic. Tentacles cancels the move. ENDS MOVE ACTION
The vampire still has to bite an adjacent thrall though, right? IF FAILED BL YES AND MUST ( Tentacles in no way, shape, or form can stop this from happening)
Or is it a turnover the moment you fail that Tentacle roll if you failed the bloodlust roll? NO TURNOVER EVEN IF HOLDING THE BALL
Ends ACTIONGreyhound wrote:so just to be clear... If I blitz from a square with a tentacle.
1) I declare my Blitz
2) I try to move away but I'm tentacled => ends the move
3) can I still block the tentacle guy or did the tentacle actually KILLED my action.
Agreed with you on the Fanatic ... I don't here.daloonieshaman wrote:Actually notGalakStarscraper wrote:It should be noted as well ... I also believe that successful Tentacles would not allow a Vampire to bite a Thrall and thus force him to leave the pitch. The logic is exactly the same as the logic I just stated above for Hypnotic Gaze.
Galak
The Bite is NOT mandatory. You are not forced to bite ... you either must bite or leave the pitch. NOTHING in the Blood Lust text says you MUST bite ... so there is no way to say it is mandatory.Byte is Mandatory at the end of the Action , Tentacles says it ends the Action
So again I agree to disagree
Yes.Does Tentacles end the Action?
Actually read Blood Lust again ... you must bite BEFORE your action fully ends (its says this twice in the skill description) .... if your action has ended you cannot bite. Otherwise if I failed a pick-up roll ... I could still bite to stay on the pitch ... and you cannot do this. Tentacles ends the Vampire's turn just as badly as failing a pick-up roll would.?Must you Bite at the end of the Action?
Your 8 Ball is broken IMO.Magic 8 Ball says ....
"all signs point to yes"
Not totally true. The Vampire could Gaze someone next to him without moving and that would be fine. However if he tries to move and is held firm by Tentacles than he cannot Gaze as his action has ended.trentusdementus wrote:What are you saying exactly here?GalakStarscraper wrote:It should be noted as well ... I also believe that successful Tentacles would not allow a Vampire to bite a Thrall and thus force him to leave the pitch. The logic is exactly the same as the logic I just stated above for Hypnotic Gaze.
Galak
If the Vampire can't move, it can't Gaze?
NoDo I have to roll a dodge to gaze, if adjacent to an opposing player that's not the target of the gaze?
Yes(most importantly) Can I: 1. roll bloodlust when activating the vampire.
Yes2. gaze the BON without moving.
Yes3. feed(or not) on thralls.
Yes4.move other players away from the BON without tentacles rolls if the gaze was successful.
Correct ... if you failed a Blood Lust roll and then fail a Tentacles roll ... its a turnover and the Vampire leaves the pitch (just as if he had failed to pick up the ball after failing a Blood Lust roll.But I understand your logic. Tentacles cancels the move.
The vampire still has to bite an adjacent thrall though, right?
Or is it a turnover the moment you fail that Tentacle roll if you failed the bloodlust roll?
Trouble makerGalakStarscraper wrote:Want another fun one with Vampires.
Let's say you a Vampire that for some very wierd reason you wanted to leave Prone on the pitch ... you can still Gaze adjacent opponents while Prone (same way that Distrubing Presence works while Prone).
Galak
OMG, are you talking seriously?GalakStarscraper wrote:Want another fun one with Vampires.
Let's say you a Vampire that for some very wierd reason you wanted to leave Prone on the pitch ... you can still Gaze adjacent opponents while Prone (same way that Distrubing Presence works while Prone).
Galak