Talk Fantasy Football

Last month folks voted on the Most Dreamy Star Player. Hey, it was February/Valentine's Day holiday after all.

Roxanna seems to be the heartthrob of choice, stealing 17% of the vote. A personal favorite of this coach. I promise I didn't rig it or vote multiple times!

Also in the running were Zara the Slayer, Karla Von Kill, and ... Wilhelm Chaney?! I guess hairy guys have fans too!

This month we have a Nurgle poll from Friend of the Polls "Dave". Dave loves to play Nurgle, but laments keeping track of all those mutations and skills across the different players. He avoids using them in tabletop games. He does have good fun with them in computer games, where all the calculations can be taken care of for him.

What do you say, are Nurgle too hard to play in tabletop? Vote in the poll!

If Nurgle are too complicated for you to play with or against, I'd recommend you find simpler games to play (and Blood Bowl is hardly on the upper end for board game complexity).

Play with and against... no issues!

No problem with playing with or against them, I could see remembering to roll for foul appearance to be a pain for new players. Remembering disturbing presence could be a pain as well along with working out who is in range.

The biggest problem I have with Nurgle is the coaches who get into character of their team by not bathing or using deodorant.

Problem with the question as posed.

Thread title is "Are they too complex?"
Poll question is "Would you play against them?"

Almost voted based on thread title rather than poll question, and I doubt I'm the only one.

dode74 wrote:Problem with the question as posed.

Thread title is "Are they too complex?"
Poll question is "Would you play against them?"

Almost voted based on thread title rather than poll question, and I doubt I'm the only one.

Thank you, hadnt spotted that. Changed my vote.

What Olaf said, with the caveat that I don't think that for new players.

Seen as i play most of my Blood Bowl at a tournement then yes i wouldn't have a choice in playing against them, think i've only played them once though and drew a game at Cake Bowl vs Heartsbane because i placed my player wrong side of the beast allowing him to blitz through getting a nasty tentical tackle zone on my ball carrier, who was then unable to move to score in the last turn

They are more challenging to play against. But not impossible, they just bring a different flavour to the game, a dirty rotten flavour

But there not too complex and its infact good to see them on the pitch, the futures Nurgle, the futures blight

Foul Appearance becomes standard by turn 2, just because it gets used over and over again.

Tentacles is irritating because it's used rarely and needlessly complicated; every time it's come into play, either I or my opponent have had to look it up. If you're playing Nurgle, I recommend having a copy of the rulebook around with the Tentacles description bookmarked.

Disturbing Presence does have some complexities, but they're reasonable; yes it does stack with itself, yes it works when the player is prone or stunned, yes it also works on interceptions (it's a catch roll), dump off (it's a pass roll), Bombardier, and so on.
But since grinning at your opponent and informing him that no, the pass was in fact not caught, is one of the greatest pleasures of playing Nurgle*, I see Disturbing Presence more as a feature than a bug.
The only downside is that I had a Nurgle opponent once lie to me and try to claim that DP works on ball pickup attempts. It does not. I say "Lie" because the coach in question had played Nurgle long enough that there's no possible way he didn't know how the skill works. And I found out afterwards that wasn't the first time he'd pulled that nonsense.

* - the other great pleasures are (1) watching your opponent squirm and die a little bit inside when they have to use a reroll on a Foul Appearance roll; (2) catching Gutter Runners, Skinks, and other incredibly irritating players with Tentacles; and (3) in a league, fouling opponents with rotters who were once their teammates.
These seem petty but there are so many low points when playing Nurgle that it forces you to notice and appreciate it when something works.

I also made the mistake of voting "no they are not too complex" rather than: "yes i would play them"

stowelly wrote:I also made the mistake of voting "no they are not too complex" rather than: "yes i would play them"

Vote isnt locked; you can change it.

dode74 wrote:Problem with the question as posed.

Thread title is "Are they too complex?"
Poll question is "Would you play against them?"

Almost voted based on thread title rather than poll question, and I doubt I'm the only one.

Thanks Dode, I'll change both to match. I went through several iterations of the original question. I then had to shorten the original question because it was too long for the Poll.

EDIT: The Poll question is too long for the Subject as well, so I'm just going with 'Nurgle rules'.

I tend to agree with rolo on this one. There is some complexity to coaching Nurgle.

I am fine playing against a seasoned Coach who knows Nurgle. I wouldn't want to play against a new Coach or bring someone into the game with a Nurgle team.

I've yet to play Nurgle myself. I feel like it's a bit much to keep track of.

I think there are equally complex teams out there though, such as Goblins. Using Throw Teammate with a Goblin/Troll is cumbersome. As are the Special Weapons. Again, with a seasoned coach who knows their team well, it shouldn't be a problem.

faust_33 wrote:Thanks Dode, I'll change both to match. I went through several iterations of the original question. I then had to shorten the original question because it was too long for the Poll.

EDIT: The Poll question is too long for the Subject as well, so I'm just going with 'Nurgle rules'.

Thanks - much clearer!

I have won two local leagues with Nurgle. Opponents often strugle with Disturbing Presence either being too scared to ever pass or just forgetting about it completly and being upset when they find they need a 5+ or 6+ to catch.