Multiple Blood Bowl rulesets
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Re: Multiple Blood Bowl rulesets
needs to be a PDF really that can be linked to and printed
Leagues won't want to scroll thorugh
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Well volunteered.voyagers_uk wrote:needs to be a PDF really that can be linked to and printed
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oh if I had the skills, I would indeed volunteer, but given we want to encourage rather than scare people off, I will defer to better suited individuals
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Re: Multiple Blood Bowl rulesets
Do you mean this? http://www.thenaf.net/2016/11/from-crp-to-bb2016/
PDF link at the bottom of the list.
PDF link at the bottom of the list.
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Khorne and Bretonnia can now be played in NAF from jan. 1st.
seems the divergence continues.
seems the divergence continues.
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Re: Multiple Blood Bowl rulesets
This applies to pretty much all games: If you want to play the game, well you have to actually put some resources into having or knowing the rules.Darkson wrote:It IS causing confusion now - not major confusion, but confusion nonetheless.
ARBBL Open was weekend past, so we had to follow the new NAF rules, and we had some (or many) of the coaches not knowing about Argue the Call for example because many existing coaches haven't felt the need to buy the new boxset, so don't have access to the new rules.
I'm not going to say the sky is falling, as a community BB coaches have managed to cope with changing rules, but it is and will cause confusion.
What other game can you expect to get the rules for free? What other game can you expect the rules to stay static for all years?
This game is owned and developed by GW and they are making new rules currently available for sale physical and digital.
If people are gonna play the game, why not actually play the game?
Last tournament I went to, some coach was confused as to why the mummies couldn't have block skill, since that was ok according to his rule book. That rule book was 15 years old... I even know people who could enjoy playing at tournaments, but they don't have models to play with (and haven't felt the need to buy any models).
What game are you trying to play here? If you gonna play a game made by GW and GW have all the rules you claim you don't have and can't let others have, I can't really see your point.Darkson wrote:The name "Argue the Call" is in the PDF but not, at GW's request, the wording.
So as a TO I'm being asked to use rules that I don't have* and let others that don't have use.
There was another rule as well, but I can't remember what that was, and I'm not at home to check.
*I do, because I have the pre-pulldown PDF but you see what I'm getting at.
Let me say it real simple: GW owns this game and owns these rules. If you want to organize a tournament with this game and these rules, you and anyone else attending are required to have or know the rules. That includes paying for it.
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Re: Multiple Blood Bowl rulesets
Well done for replying to a 8 month old post.
For your information, these were changes forced on to pre-sanctioned tournaments by the NAF on the 1st Feb. The ARBBL had, for example, been sanctioned in September (or before, I forget) as a CRP ruleset, which was.the current rules at the time.
For your information, these were changes forced on to pre-sanctioned tournaments by the NAF on the 1st Feb. The ARBBL had, for example, been sanctioned in September (or before, I forget) as a CRP ruleset, which was.the current rules at the time.
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You made similar arguments in a different thread very recently.Darkson wrote:Well done for replying to a 8 month old post.
For your information, these were changes forced on to pre-sanctioned tournaments by the NAF on the 1st Feb. The ARBBL had, for example, been sanctioned in September (or before, I forget) as a CRP ruleset, which was.the current rules at the time.
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Re: Multiple Blood Bowl rulesets
Guildball.Baxx wrote:What other game can you expect to get the rules for free?
http://steamforged.com/resources/
Full rulebook and all player cards there. Also when they update something (for example Harry 'The Hat' got nerfed in August) they update the rules on that page too.
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Very nice! So all those players who can't pay GW for rules now have a free alternative to play instead.Wulfyn wrote:Guildball.Baxx wrote:What other game can you expect to get the rules for free?
http://steamforged.com/resources/
Full rulebook and all player cards there. Also when they update something (for example Harry 'The Hat' got nerfed in August) they update the rules on that page too.
I have never seen a guildball tournament or anyone play it before. The games I have seen at tournaments are 40k, fantasy/aos/9th edition, warmachine & hordes etc. Most if not all requires rules that are not free. Just like Blood Bowl and all other games GW make.
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Infinity has a thriving tournament scene and their rules are free to download. Malifaux is another example.
I think GW and Privateer Press are among the very few companies that don't offer free downloads these days. They also happen to be the biggest, of course.
I think GW and Privateer Press are among the very few companies that don't offer free downloads these days. They also happen to be the biggest, of course.
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This is more of a GW thing.Baxx wrote:I have never seen a guildball tournament or anyone play it before. The games I have seen at tournaments are 40k, fantasy/aos/9th edition, warmachine & hordes etc. Most if not all requires rules that are not free. Just like Blood Bowl and all other games GW make.
There are Magic: The Gathering tournaments all the time. Magic rules are free; WotC makes their money selling the cards.
There are X-Wing tournaments. X-Wing rules are free; Fantasy Flight Games make their money selling models and cards and accessories.
There are Chess tournaments. Chess rules are free; Chess piece manufacturers make their money selling chess boards and pieces.
Heck, there are soccer tournaments. Soccer rules are free; this isn't the greatest example because most of the money is in running leagues and tournaments, not selling equipment. But do you think they would gain or lose fans if, every year, you had to pay $50 for rules updates?
But there are many, many successful game businesses whose business model is selling game figures and accessories while providing the rules for free.
In particular, for a long time, the CRP Blood Bowl rules were free. GW actually made a decent amount of money selling Warhammer models which were converted to Blood Bowl, although of course their bean counters won't be able to tell those apart from normal Warhammer players.
This is a bit of what I'm worried about, although I'd replace "can't pay GW" with "refuse to pay GW".So all those players who can't pay GW for rules now have a free alternative to play instead.
I like Blood Bowl, I own multiple boxed sets with the rules across multiple editions. But it does me no good without other people who play, in leagues and in tournaments.
So I think that GW charging money for the Blood Bowl rules is short-sighted and destructive to their brand, possibly making them a little bit more money today but losing potential gamers long-term. Which is their right, of course! And naturally they have a long, storied, decades-long tradition of doing exactly that.
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GW charging money for their rules has been extremely productive for 40k and fantasy/aos. Any reason it shouldn't be for Blood Bowl?
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How about the fact that Blood Bowl players are just used to have their rules updates for free (LRB) while 40K or AoS players always had to pay for new editions of rules or army books?Baxx wrote:GW charging money for their rules has been extremely productive for 40k and fantasy/aos. Any reason it shouldn't be for Blood Bowl?
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